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111: Health Through Herbal Medicine, Brain Wellness and Being Prepared | Jane Barlow-Christensen
Learn about herbal medicine with Jane Barlow-Christensen, who has continued on her fathers mission, as she shares about the profound impact of plant remedies on brain health and overall wellness. Jane, a seasoned expert, shares her story of inheriting her father's legacy.
Discover how natural remedies can contribute to your health as we highlight the vital role of the brain as the body's hungriest organ and how improving its oxygen and circulation can lead to a healthier, longer life, while discussing the powerful benefits of ingredients like cayenne pepper, ginger, and turmeric. These potent herbs can enhance heart health, digestion, and reduce inflammation. This episode provides invaluable insights and practical tips for incorporating these ingredients into your daily routine for optimal health.
Lastly, prepare yourself for life's unexpected challenges with Jane's expert strategies and suggestions on emergency herbal preparation. Learn about the significance of having an herbal medicine kit stocked with essential tinctures like lomatium and feverfew, and the practicality of sprouting seeds for sustainable nutrition. We also discuss the HealingStrong organization, offering support and resources for those on their healing journey. We pray you are encouraged by the benefits of nature and empower yourself with knowledge that can rejuvenate both body and mind.
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Thank you for bringing that up because I love it so much. I don't really talk about it that much on podcasts anymore, but it's such like our brain is our hungriest organ. Think about if you get deprived of oxygen for a very short amount of time. You can do some brain damage. So the herbs in it are designed to improve oxygen and circulation to your brain. So, yeah, you're going to be right along with me. 120. We're going to be zipping along with our 450th podcast, jim.
Speaker 2:That's right. We put that on the calendar.
Speaker 3:You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast, a part of the Healing Strong organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world. The number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world. Each week, we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health.
Speaker 2:Now here's your host stage four cancer thriver Jim Mann, Jane Barlow, it's so good to talk to you again, one of my favorite guests.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 2:You're one of my favorite podcasters. That's what I was fishing for, thank you.
Speaker 1:Right on cue baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now, if someone's not familiar with you, we do have you on episode 29. So pause this right now and go listen to episode 29 first, so you can know all aboutane and, uh, all her background, how she took over her dad's business. I mean, it's not like a hostile takeover, but you took it, you're going with it and keeping it going and expanding it and helping people realize that there's medicine in our backyard, right?
Speaker 1:yes, you are so correct and you're right. It was not a hostile takeover. Unfortunately, my dad passed on and I I get to take, got to take over his beautiful legacy. But yeah, there are, there's plant medicine in your backyard.
Speaker 2:That's pretty brilliant I'm trying to remember. Did any other? You have like 107 siblings. Okay, 13 of them, but yeah, are any of those also working with you in the business? I forget.
Speaker 1:No, I'm constantly surprised. Well, I don't even know now, because my dad's been gone for almost 27 years and I restarted his company four years after we passed and I have, as you said, a big 107 siblings. Actually, there's 14 of us, five boys and nine girls, and I have a couple of brothers who worked pretty closely with my dad. But all of us grew up this way and all of us had had a chance to do things with my dad that were one-on-one. He really believed he was such a good parent, a good dad. He would take us individually on business trips with him and we used to get to go up into the mountains with him. A lot of times it was all of us, but there were times he spent one-on-one time with us.
Speaker 1:So I have these moments when I think, wow, you know, I never dreamed that it would be me. You know, I had a career in fitness for 20 years. I used to own my own gym and I did personal training and I still taught exercise classes until COVID hit and then it kind of the gym I was working at it didn't survive. So so, yeah, I carry my dad's work. He was a brilliant botanist and every single day I am grateful. I am humbled To the chagrin of my boys, who are both in their 40s. Now I tell them I'm never going to retire because I love what I do so much. And it's not like it's really their chagrin, but I keep control of my business. I'm very particular about where the herbs are sourced and how they're made and I do all the formulating. So yeah, that was kind of a long answer to your startup there, but there you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and of course you won't have to retire because you'll live to be like 120, since you're so healthy.
Speaker 1:Well, I got stuff to do, I got people to help, I got people to inspire and I think if you take really good care of this, this vessel, this temple we've been given um, we can't experience what this beautiful life has to offer us if we're in ill health, and I know that this is such a beautiful mission with the healing strong um. You know that their mission, that I'm always honored to be a part of it.
Speaker 2:So yes, yes, and I I was talking to you earlier how I take the brain glow which is why I'm so mentally sharp. And I actually take that because my mom, she, she had dementia for like the last six or seven years of her life. Fortunately she was very pleasant with it. It I know some people get grouchy and mean, but she was very pleasant. But she would rather have been sharp, I'm sure. So I'm trying to protect myself against something like that.
Speaker 1:Well, I think that's the thing. We always think. Taking care of our body is super important, and it is. But a part of our body includes our brain, and I think there's a lot of factors that play into that, besides what you eat. And this is where the beauty of mother nature and herbal medicine comes in. Is, you know, the oldest living tree species in the world that we are aware of is the ginkgo biloba tree, and it's got these beautiful leaves that have powerful properties that are really good for your brain and it. That is one of the ingredients in the brain globe.
Speaker 1:But you know, we've been so conditioned with the last 100, 150 years of so-called modern medicine. Um, and it has its place. You don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water, but, um, it's herbal medicine is powerful. So, yeah, I love that you're taking that. I told you before we were recording. I'm like, don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but, um, it's herbal medicine is powerful. So, yeah, I love that you're taking that. I told you before we were recording. I'm like you brought that up first thing. I'm like, yes, this is something I don't ever skip, because we're both in our 60s and it. It's to me. I want to be 120 and I want to still recognize my family. I want to be sharp. I want to. I mean, I know people. My uncle just turned 90 about three weeks ago and he is as sharp as a tack.
Speaker 2:So yes, and I know you love to talk about the lomatium. Is that how you say that? Yes, I have that also and this is a time of year that it's very good to have handy, correct?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So I think that it's almost our duty or our responsibility at this point to really really learn about herbs that would be good in our own personal home apothecary or herbal arsenal, and lomatium is one of them because it's such a powerful antimicrobial. You know like there's people who are used to things like echinacea, elderberry, lemon balm. You know these are really common herbs that are good for cold and flu season and I am familiar with them. I have all of them. I love all of them. I consider lamation kind of like a heavy hitter.
Speaker 1:It's something that you know, I wouldn't want to be without, and there's a learning curve to it because it causes a one-time rash in some people, but it's not anything to be afraid of, but it's something to be aware of. And here's the thing you need to be brave. You know, when you first start using herbal medicine, what I find is people don't, they don't really trust it. You know they're like well, what if I take this and it doesn't do what it's supposed to do? Well, you need. Herbal medicine is powerful. Most drugs have. They are derived from a base of herbs and plants, like white willow bark is aspirin, but you can't patent Mother Nature, so you have to create something that's a chemical or something unnatural.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, and then with the natural stuff it doesn't happen overnight. It's something that has to build up in your body, as opposed to the medicines you get over the counter. It's just comes with side effects or potential side effects, I should say that and normally it happens quicker. But it's not natural stuff. Natural stuff kind of changes. Um, I don't say who you are, but how your body reacts to things. Am I saying that correctly?
Speaker 1:Well, okay, so yes and no. So, the reason that people think that over-the-counter meds work quicker is because they cover the symptoms.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And what you're going after is what's causing you to be sick or to have this problem, and it's not that herbal medicine works slower. I've actually seen herbal medicine work extremely fast. You know, I raised both my boys on natural medicine. My grandkids now are using it. It's just part of it. They just reach for stuff themselves. But sometimes if you're dealing with, say, a chronic issue, like when you have some of these different cancers or some of these different issues like heart problems or whatever, like if you have chronic issues, then yeah, you want to give your body a chance to absorb the, you know, absorb the plant medicine and let it do its job. Because even though I've seen people heal really quickly and we say, oh, it's spontaneous healing, it's a miracle, well, our body knows how to heal when it gets the right tools. It's actually quite simple and miracles happen every single day. So I think that when you talk about it over the counter or something working quicker, it does. But what you're doing is you're just usually suppressing a symptom right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going down a trail there that I wasn't sure how to put it to words, but I was partially right, mostly because of the brain glow. Before brain glow I was not right at all no, I don't you know what.
Speaker 1:I thank you for bringing that up because I love it so much. I don't really talk about it that much on podcasts anymore, but it's such like our brain is our hungriest organ. Think about, if you get deprived of oxygen for very, for a very short amount of time. You can do some brain damage. So the herbs in it are designed to improve oxygen and circulation to your brain. So, yeah, if you're going to, you're going to be right along with me. 120. We're going to be zipping along with our 450th podcast, jim.
Speaker 2:That's right. Let me put that on the calendar, yeah, and so it doesn't look like this is just like an advertising for you guys. I do want to bring up something that I recently started taking because I always see it on Instagram. You know, I'm like a teenager, you know I'm on Instagram all the time, yeah, but there's this thing where it's a concoction of honey, like a cup of honey, and then you add a teaspoon of ginger and turmeric and what's a black pepper, cayenne pepper and cinnamon, and so I've been taking that for like a week and it's pretty nice.
Speaker 2:I mean, I can breathe through my nose, and this time of year it's getting a little chilly here, not too bad, not chilly enough. But yeah, everyone else around me is getting all stopped up and I'm as healthy as I can be.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that's a power punch. So is the main base of that the honey.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So then you mix in the ginger, the turmeric, the cayenne, the black pepper.
Speaker 1:okay, that is. I have not seen that out on instagram, but none of I've seen other recipes that have similar. Yeah, that you are doing something really, really powerful there. In fact, the herbs that are there cayenne pepper is also one of my very favorite herbs. It's really amazing for heart health, it's good for your vascular system, it's good for your digestion, it's good for your metabolism and it will help open up your airways. If you think about it Like, of course, it's got that heat, so it's going to raise your body temperature a little bit.
Speaker 1:It's got a lot of really powerful benefits. In fact, I think every person should have cayenne pepper as part of their daily because it's so good for your heart. But it's also good for emergency uses in the cases of, like, maybe heart issues, like if you have a heart attack, you know, or heartache. I mean, that's a whole other thing we can go into. But ginger super good for digestion, also really really good for inflammation. It's really good for you know, keeping your whole digestive process moving and going. And think about the airways that it opens up as well, because when you take some ginger, you eat some ginger, especially fresh ginger root. I don't know how you when you take some ginger, you eat some ginger, especially fresh ginger root. I don't know how you do. You do powdered ginger.
Speaker 2:I do the organic powder.
Speaker 1:So here's what you should try. The grocery store that we have close to my house has fresh ginger root and fresh turmeric root and you can take it. And I have this little I call it an inflammation shot and I do fresh ginger, fresh turmeric, I peel it, I chop it up, I put it in with some fresh squeezed lemon juice and fresh squeezed grapefruit juice and fresh squeezed orange juice. So I get the fruits and I juice them, I put the turmeric and this is fresh turmeric root, fresh ginger root and then I juice all the fruit and then I chop these up, I put them all in a blender and I blend it up and then I filter the bulk of the ginger and the turmeric root. So that, and it's just this. It just makes you pucker and I do like an ounce, an ounce a day, and I'll also put my cayenne pepper tincture in there.
Speaker 1:So, I'm adding the cayenne pepper as well, and you're just, you're waking up your digestion. Think about metabolism. I mean, a lot of people have problems with their metabolism, which means your body's not efficient at burning fuel, burning the food you eat, and a lot of that can lead to weight problems. But yeah, think about what you just said too, as far as it's keeping you well. And then you've got the honey, which has a lot of antibacterial, antimicrobial properties as well. Yeah, that's a good blend. You got there, jim. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:I figured it must be good, because they weren't selling it, it wasn't a sponsored thing, so I thought, well, they're not trying to sell me anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody can make it. You can make it at your own house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, well, I'm a little proud of myself right now you should be and of course I have all kinds of questions. Basically I have questions about myself and hopefully other people can relate to what I go through. But I remember when I got first diagnosed diagnosed with cancer and I used to have heartburn like all the time. As soon as I cut sugar out, it stopped. I didn't have any more heartburn. I thought, well, that might have been it. But lately I've been getting heartburn a lot and I'm not sure what that's about. I know you, you need more acid in in your gut and so, like I would do the vinegar, the apple cider vinegar, and you know I could put that kind of stuff down because you know the caliber of a man I am. But still like if I lay down at night I'll be getting it, or just walking around during the day. I'm not sure what that's about. What could I do to kind of help that?
Speaker 1:You know what I would do. So one of the precursors to heartburn, believe it or not, which causes a lot of problems, is stress.
Speaker 2:Uh-oh.
Speaker 1:So, even though you think, well, maybe I don't have stress, my life is good and easy and I'm great, you know, because we think as we especially the ages that we are we think, well, we've got a lot of life figured out, we've figured. We realize we don't get worked up about things that we used to get worked up about, but I think you know we were also talking about the impending election coming up. That's going to be. You know, that can cause stress to people, even if they think they've got a grip on it. So, first of all, what I would do is take a look at anything that might be causing you stress, even a little bit of low-grade stress, because we become so used to it that we don't. We just think that that's just normal and we don't even chalk anything up to stress.
Speaker 1:Now, what I would also add is I would really look at some digestive enzymes, which I believe would really really help with heartburn. Um, the last thing you want to do, from my opinion, is go get things like tums or things that, yeah, because then you're just again, you're covering up something and you're giving yourself a temporary fix, but you're also not giving your body the ability to produce its own um juices and stuff. So you might even want to do your your little honey ginger turmeric concoction thing, maybe twice a day instead of once a day yeah and do it on an empty stomach and let it.
Speaker 1:Let it sit in your stomach, maybe with some digestive enzymes. I love um papaya enzymes. They're, they're. You can get them chewable, they're really yummy. But I also have some other enzymes that I get and if you don't eat something with its own enzymes which comes in living food, then your body doesn't have the enzymes to break down the food and you also might be having some issues with your liver and your gallbladder. So you might want to consider doing something like dandelion root. You can get dandelion root tea, which yeah, I do that every day.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. You might want to do double your tea bags.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Do a double tea bag, because that's going to really help your liver, but then you might want to get something, something, a supplement that's specific for liver and gallbladder. Yeah, I mean, I don't again don't want to just make this with what I have, but I have a. I have a liver love. That's capsule. That's important. It's an encapsule because I love dandelion tea too, but when you have herbs that go through the digestive process, then it actually can activate your liver and gallbladder differently than when they just go in liquid and they don't have to break down, right, yeah, so that's what I would do. I would get some good enzymes and add some things that support and love on your liver and gallbladder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, because I hadn't had it for so long, the heartburn. I thought why is that coming back? But there is once you said the stress there is a little stress factor coming in because ever since that COVID stuff my wife's business kind of dropped and it's slowly building back up, but then it needs to build up a little quicker. So I'm going to help her on the business end of things. So hopefully that will turn around no stress, it'll be great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. So maybe add some bits of meditation in, if you're not already. You know, disconnect from your technology for as much as you can during the day and get outside and walk, and you probably already do those kind of things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know I have a five-mile loop I do from my house around down in my neighborhood. There's a river, there's a parkway with a river and I have this five-mile loop. I walk every single day and it's a beautiful time for me to. It's a time commitment. It takes me between an hour and 30 minutes, an hour and 40 minutes and there are some days I'm like I don't know if I can fit this in. Does it get up earlier or I do it right after I'm done working. So I think anyone listening to this, if you can find ways to get out into nature, even if it's walking around your neighborhood, and don't take your technology you know that's the biggest challenge for people Unless you're leaving kids at home and you need to be reach for an emergency. But don't even listen to podcasts. You know, don't listen to music. Get well, music is different. But yeah, that's a good, that's a, that's a suggestion for, but listen to this podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, it goes without saying. Now, in this area, here, we had a hurricane you might've heard about it and came through here.
Speaker 2:In fact we were about to leave to go to down to daytona beach to celebrate my daughter my youngest daughter's 21st birthday. So we had a condo on the beach there and this hurricane was supposed to go a little bit to the west of us, so I'd be a little rain and and wind, wouldn't be that big of a deal and I was going to go down the east coast. So. But then when I got up at three in the morning getting ready to leave at four, I look on my app and the eye was just coming right over us. So I thought man, it sounds a little windier than it should be. And I look, my trees are blown one way and then also the eye came. You know, everything was calm and then they're blowing the opposite direction. So we we did make it down there. It took us a lot longer, had to go around a lot of big trees and we had to go four hours before we could find a gas station that had power or restrooms you can use. So Florida was great.
Speaker 2:Usually you don't run to Florida to get out of hurricanes, but in this case it worked out great and it was a week before the other hurricane came back to where we were at in Florida. We were dodging hurricanes for a couple weeks, basically, but when we came back, so many places around us, our neighborhood never lost power. We lost internet, but you know that's not that big of a deal, but power. There are so many people that went weeks and weeks without power and, of course, asheville, which, which is just north of us, about an hour 15 minutes. Obviously that was devastated and it still is.
Speaker 2:When you go through something like that and you don't have electricity and whatnot, what would you suggest? What are good herbs or what should we have on hand to make sure we try to keep our health? Or what would you use other than having gardens? But you can't do that all of a sudden as a hurricane's coming if you don't already have one yeah, yeah, I mean that's such a great question.
Speaker 1:I've been I've actually been asked this question and it doesn't surprise me the last few years because I think people are realizing, um, the preparedness right really really important for whatever might come, whatever situation you find yourself in. As far as you know, before I touch on the herbal aspect, what I really love is having access to sprouting seeds, because if you and then use them and have them going so that you can, so you're familiar with them, don't just have a bunch in your food storage but you don't know how to start sprouting.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Because if, in a dire emergency, you could actually live on sprouts for a while, because they're living foods, they're full of dense, dense nutrition. There's protein and vitamins and minerals and all kinds of goods and good things in different sprouts. That's what first thing I would say as far as the food source. Now it is important to have some herbal medicine and this is where me and my siblings you know my siblings actually feel really grateful that I have continued my dad's work, because I kind of besides the stuff that we have in our warehouse at my home, I have a bunch of herbs curing in different tinctures and that's what I use for my family and all my siblings and all of their kids. So something for infections. So lomatium is really good for that, something that's you know, cayenne pepper in tincture form is really, really good in case there's an emergency with with a heart, heart issue, things for inflammation and pain, and like turmeric is really good. Something like cat's claw is really good and something, you know, it doesn't have to be a great, big, huge group of herbs, you can even keep it to like under 10, but something like feverfew in and these I would also suggest in tincture form, and the reason is they go right to the bloodstream, they're very fast acting and the shelf life on them, like all of our tinctures, have a 10-year shelf life Wow, and it actually will last longer than that. But there might be some evaporation, even through the rubber dropper, over really long periods of time evaporation, even through the rubber dropper, over really long periods of time. But if you have, you know, eight to 10 tinctures, then you don't ever have to worry about them going bad. But the reason you want fever few is for fevers and headaches and things like that. And then you would want to learn how to make a poultice so that you could actually do some wound healing. How to make a poultice so that you could actually do some wound healing, like, if you needed to, you know you could take a tincture that was good for, like, say, lomation. You could take some lomation tincture and put it into like a skin wound. It would sting a little bit at first, but that way you could actually keep it from getting infected. And then you know. So I would say something that you, if you can't get somewhere to like to a hospital or whatever and you're in an emergency situation to help yourself or help others, I actually have what's called an emergency essential kit and it's got a little group of things that are all tinctures. One is a skin salve that is actually in a petroleum jelly base, and the only reason we do that is it has a long shelf life. But sometimes you might need a wound cover that has a waterproof base, because there's a lot of people who are really into natural things. I'm one of those people. Because there's a lot of people who are really into natural things, I'm one of those people. But sometimes, like a really pure petroleum jelly is with herbs in, it, is really really good for healing a wound. So I think those are just some things to kind of think about.
Speaker 1:Think about what your family is, what's their health like currently, and then maybe curate your herbal apothecary accordingly, because some families might need they might have little kids who might need something that maybe an elderly person might not, and vice versa. And maybe someone has a prescription of something. Well, this is a good time to think about. Well, what can I do to responsibly get off my prescriptions, maybe with the help of my doctor? So what if you couldn't get to the pharmacy? You know what I mean. It puts a lot of people in a really kind of a tricky situation. But hopefully that answered your question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, perfectly. Of course I had to write down a lot of stuff because I, you know, even with my brain glow, I sometimes forget some things. I do have the Golden Salve, Is that what it's called? I got this last year at the Healing Strong Convention that you spoke at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a natural one, which is good it's got. The base is coconut oil, shea butter, beeswax. There's some vitamin E which acts as a preservative. Yeah, but that's a natural base. It doesn't have any. It doesn't have a super long shelf life a couple of years.
Speaker 2:Uh-oh, I better go get hurt.
Speaker 1:It start using it, like even if you use it as a lip balm.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Really nice if you get chapped skin or it's super lovely.
Speaker 2:I thought I had to have an injury and I was upset I wasn't getting hurt.
Speaker 1:Nope, chapped lits my friend. Okay, I'll give you a flip palm just like a little bit of, just kind of yep.
Speaker 2:All right, I was excited because I thought, man, if it doesn't have it only lasts a couple of years, I already got a year on it. I was going to, you know, try to go play rugby, or something.
Speaker 1:It'll last longer than a couple of years, but that's, we put a Best Buy of two years.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then one more thing. That's about me, of course.
Speaker 1:This is your podcast, jim, that's right.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is your podcast, jim, that's right, okay, well, and I don't know if this is a side effect still from the immunotherapy I went through, which you know it saved my life, so I'm not going to complain too much, yeah.
Speaker 2:Some of the side effects could be really bad. I've heard some of the side effects are death and that's kind of a bad side effect. But I haven't had that one. But my, the joints in my, in my hips, all of a sudden and it might be my mattress, I don't know. It was like all of a sudden, you know, when I get up out of a chair I feel like an old person, I feel like I'm 67 or something. But yeah, I know, 67 is not old. What am I saying?
Speaker 2:no, heck no but is is there there some kind of herbs or anything that kind of helps with joint pain? Because I don't think it's like I don't need hip replacements or anything, because once I get going I'm fine. But I don't know, it just makes me feel old. I don't like that feeling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the very first thing I would do. You're already doing the turmeric, which is awesome, but are you familiar with an herb called cat's claw?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I would be doing daily cat's claw.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And it tinctures your form because it's the absorbability right to the bloodstream. We do a tincture we call unadagado, which is the same thing. So it's from Peru, it's the inner bark of the cat's claw tree and it's a. It's from peru, it's the inner bark of the of the cat claw tree and it is it's not only good for inflammation and pain. So if there's any kind of you know inflammation in your hips or you know, I don't know how much you do stretching or if you're, if you're active, do you do you walk every day? Or okay, keep, definitely keep that up, because once, once you stop moving, like movement is extremely important for your physical body and I think a lot of people, when they have some pain, they stop moving because it's not comfortable. But I would also and I don't carry this anymore, but I would also look into some CBD, and not with THC, but just a really pure CBD.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Really good for inflammation and pain. And we have inside of us they discovered it in the 1980s we actually have an endocannabinoid system. So, like we have a nervous system, we have a digestive system, like our body has receptors that recognize the properties of cannabis. And most people have never, they've never, activated that system. You know, I'm a person who's, you know, I would never smoke a cigarette. I've never. I've never done. You know, I've never done marijuana as a joint or recreation. I've never done that.
Speaker 1:But a couple of years ago I had, a long time ago I had a really bad water ski accident. So I had a long time ago I had a really bad water ski accident. So over the years it got worse and worse and worse. My one leg, I had a bad injury and two years ago I had to end up getting a full knee replacement, which was interesting for someone like me who doesn't go to the doctor. I'm super active, I'm super. I mean, I used to own a gym and I used to. You know so, and and. But we have these physical bodies and sometimes we get hurt, but the surgeon, um, I ended up getting uh, opinions from different orthopedic surgeons and I finally landed on the third one. In fact, you would probably um recognize this name. Uh, hayden, do you recognize that name?
Speaker 1:yeah so he was a speed skater at the lake placid, uh, winter olympics, and I think it was 1980. Well, he went on to become he won all the gold medals, right, he was like very decorated. And he went on to become an orthopedic surgeon. He practices here in the salt lake Valley, actually up in Park City, and he's the one who did my knee surgery, which is really cool because I remember those Olympics very well.
Speaker 1:But he was the third one I talked to because I wanted to the aftercare, which is really, you know, I've never had surgery before and this is a major surgery. I wanted to take care of myself with herbs and so I laid it out to the first surgeon. They're like no, no, no, you have to do this, this and this. And the second one the same. And so I went to see Dr Hyden and I said this is what I want to do to take care of myself. I don't want to be on prescription pain meds, I don't want to do the anti-inflammatory drugs, I don't want to be on prescription pain meds, I don't want to do the anti-inflammatory drugs. I don't want to do, I don't want to do these antibiotics. You know, these are these, are not this. And he goes okay, well, what? What would you do? Because it's like you have people who say, well, I want to do something natural, but they don't really have any idea.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Or maybe they have a little bit of an idea and they're hoping the doctor will tell them what. So I basically just laid it out. It was a very simple I'm going to do this for inflammation and pain and this and this. I'm going to do this in place, like I did the lamation in place of an antibiotic, and then I'm going to do this in place of whatever else. And he was like oh okay, you do know what you're talking about and that's how I went through it. So I kind of taken us back. I did do CBD with THC for the pain that I had when I was recovering from my knee replacement, but you can use I would suggest for you CBD without that, because you're just trying to wait. Unless you have experience with it and you've turned on your endocannabinoid system and your receptors are going to recognize it, that should be something very, very easy for you to get, because now CBD is legal everywhere, as it should be, and it's something that should be really easy to get.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, that sounds good. I'm like you be, and it's something that should be easy to really, you know, really easy to get. Yeah, okay, that sounds good. I'm like you, I've never smoked anything. Yeah, and I'm such a, I'm such a pure little fella yeah, you are.
Speaker 1:We like our lungs. It's like I've never understood people when they sit and smoke. Yeah, I just, and I don't. I don't judge anybody because I think it's fine, but I'm just like how we saw it. Why would I want to like wrap? It's fine, but I'm just like, how is that? Why would I want to like wrap? It's like wrapping your lips around an exhaust pipe. Why would she want to? That was my visual as a teenager. I'm like why would you do that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't know of anybody who smokes that down the road. Wishes they ever glad they still are. I mean, most people are like why did I ever start this?
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever, we're way past our time, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Shoot. I think that was a brilliant conversation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm on time and a half now Just kidding and, of course, to get a hold of you. It's the same thing. Go to what's it? Barloherbalcom all the information there I still I have your like a catalog of everything you've got. It reminds me of the sears catalog growing up where I picked out christmas presents. It's got a lot of stuff in there yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:I mean, over the decades there's been a lot of herbal wisdom that. You know that was really kind of started by my dad, but he, he was in the era before podcasting, before before websites. You know that was really kind of started by my dad, but he, he was in the era before podcasting, before before websites. You know, he he never, he never did that. But we have this. It's like a 64 page, uh, it's a booklet, a catalog that kind of tells you a little bit of our history but it it kind of tells you all about the products and what they do. And, yeah, and you can actually go to our website and just download a PDF if you, or we'll mail you a hard copy if you want to reach out, super easy.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, and is there anything new that you've come up with since the last time I talked to you that you would like to talk about or mention?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so are you familiar? You're familiar with Essiac or Essiac.
Speaker 2:So are you familiar? You're familiar with Essiac or Essiac.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, I knew it with the T, yeah. So this is a very famous formula, especially for people that probably listen to this who've been dealing with cancer or helping someone who has. This is a very famous recipe that was put out over 100 years ago by a Canadian nurse named Renee Casey or Reem Case, and it's brewed into a tea. You can get it that's probably the most common way to get it but in the late 1960s my dad worked with her and he added two additional herbs to the traditional four that are in Essiac and he made it into a very powerful tincture. So, besides the four herbs, he added blood root and watercress. So for years for probably 40 years we've been 45 years we've been making this Essiac tincture.
Speaker 1:Well, at the end of last year I had this idea because we talked to so many people with different types of cancer and different things that I'm like why don't I take those six herbs that are in our tincture, infuse them into oils and put them into skin products?
Speaker 1:So that's what I did. So at the first of this year I brought out it's Essiac Skin Serum and then Essiac Skin Salve, and it's now been. You know we're recording this at the very end of October and it's so. These have been out now for almost a year and the feedback that we've gotten it just gives me chills talking about it, because to me, mother Nature is so beautiful and so perfect. I feel like I feel kind of like like this vessel of inspiration, and I'm grateful that I get to act on it and that I get to bring things out that help people. So that's something that's new, that is, it's just amazing. So skin, if you've had a lot of sun at torture on your head or your shoulders, your back, your chest, these are just really beautiful products to help.
Speaker 2:Maybe a little melanoma on the head is what I had, if you call that a skin issue.
Speaker 1:I see a skin issue. Do you have any skin issues?
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I think I remember seeing that in an email. I get your emails.
Speaker 1:Oh cool yeah, that came out at the beginning of the year. Okay yeah, every time I read it I go oh cool yeah, that came out At the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2:So, okay, yeah, there's always. Every time I read it, I gotta check that out. Like so many things I gotta check out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and a lot of it's education. You know, every Wednesday, every Thursday, I put out a herbal wisdom video when I just really teach about Individual herbs. You know, yeah, things that are common Like dammy lions. You know, yeah, things that are common like dammy lions. And you know, like things everyone should really start putting into their thought process. Or have someone in your family who's interested, because I know some people aren't interested in this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Every family should have one person. That you've kind of pushed toward that direction.
Speaker 2:That's right. The rest can just eat Twinkies, right.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, Jim.
Speaker 2:Okay, not promoting it.
Speaker 1:You'll be like WALL-E. You remember that movie? Yes, the Twinkies like survived into the future like thousands of years. Yes, I know you were joking, but yeah.
Speaker 2:I used to like them, but they're not healthy. I did too.
Speaker 1:I ate my share of Twinkies and Ding Dongs too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh man. Oh well, but now we're healthy, so we're not going to do that, that's right. Well, jane, it was a pleasure, as usual, to talk to you, and I'm sitting here carrying my brain glow back into the kitchen.
Speaker 2:You're awesome, jim. Well, hopefully I would like to get you actually to speak at one of my. You know I'm still a group leader with Healing Strong and I think I've told you on the other podcast. We have our own cancer park, cancer survivors park. I should say it's not a park for cancer but, yeah, get you to talk one time to my people. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:I'm meeting with the group in Salt Lake next month. I've met twice in person with them and it's Colette, Colette Mosier.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So she reached out again. She's like, since you're local, let's can you come and speak in person again? So I'm next month, we're, but I'd be happy to you know. This is how we, you guys, are all about sharing and and, and you know, giving people little tips on how they can make massive improvements. And if I could just say one last thing, if we need to know people need to know that wellness is simple. We overcomplicate everything and I think if we bring it back to simplicity, which can start with the foods that we eat and I know you guys preach all that all the time, but vibrant health is not complicated. We are made so perfectly and if we give our body the right tools, not just physically but spiritually and emotionally, our body heals quickly and we need to remember that.
Speaker 2:Yes, good point.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that.
Speaker 1:I knew you were, I just wanted to beat you to it.
Speaker 2:Well, you're younger than me, so you did no big deal, I guess.
Speaker 1:I've been to beat you to it. Well, you're younger than me, so you did no big deal. I guess I've been taking brains a little longer than you, I guess.
Speaker 2:All right, Jane. Well, thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 1:Thanks, jim, it's always a pleasure to chat with you and stay brilliant.
Speaker 2:my friend, I'll give it a shot.
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