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110: Diagnosis to Overcoming Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma | Benjamin Canales
Four year Idaho HealingStrong Group Leader, Benjamin Canales, shares his inspiring journey from his New York roots to overcoming cancer to now leading a free support group based in holistic health. In 2016, Ben received his cancer diagnosis, and described the initial symptoms. Ben also mentions the spiritual journey that emerged as an integral part of his healing process. Learn from Ben's insights as he highlights the deep impact of faith, community, and holistic healing in his path to recovery.
You will hear the reality of seeking alternative cancer treatments and the emotional roller coaster that accompanies it in his story such as the interactions with different oncologists. Discussed is the importance in understanding cancer as a symptom of deeper health issues and prioritizing nutrition. Through Ben's involvement with HealingStrong, he connects with others seeking a community and most often, alternative paths, and support from others navigating similar fears and/or challenges.
Celebrate the growth of the HealingStrong Group in Idaho, and gain insight into how community and shared resources and experiences can positively impact one's healing journey. This episode is a testament to the strength found in rebuilding the body, renewing the soul, and refreshing the spirit, offering hope and encouragement for anyone on their own path to health and healing. Be inspired to take charge of your health journey and discover the resources available through the HealingStrong organization for a more holistic approach to wellness.
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when you read for five years, you learn a lot, and there's just nothing that anyone could do to change my mind. And I was never even. You know, the thing I was fortunate about was, you know, I mean, I wasn't 100% sure, you know, I didn't know if I was going to come through it, but I just knew that you know there's different paths and this is the path that made the most sense to me. And so, you know, with that said, I have a lot of empathy for the folks that I meet at Healing Strong, because you know a lot of them that come have already gone down these roads and they realize that, okay, this isn't exactly working out the way I thought it was going to work out, so now they're looking for answers.
Speaker 2:You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast, a part of the Healing Strong organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world. Each week we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health. Now here's your host stage four cancer thriver, jim Mann.
Speaker 3:Joining me on this episode, ben Kanellis, all the way up there in Idaho right.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, the panhandle.
Speaker 3:You don't mind the cold apparently.
Speaker 1:I didn't say that I've gotten used to it.
Speaker 3:For sure. Yeah, I was telling you earlier I was up in. I say up, it's down for you, but McCall, Idaho, I was there for a men in radio retreat and it was like 75 feet of snow. It was just incredible. Actually, more like three or four feet, but it was so serene, it was so quiet and relaxed and I'm like, ah, this is wonderful. Wouldn't want to drive in it, but it was wonderful. So, yeah, I have good feelings about Idaho.
Speaker 1:It's a beautiful area.
Speaker 3:So give us a little background of you. You said you were born in New York.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's where I was originally born. My dad's, from Puerto Rico, joined the service when he was young and after the service he went back to New York but after a couple years decided it had me. My mom and uh dad had me, and then, uh, they moved back to uh tacoma where he had been stationed at fort lewis back in the day, and that's where I grew up was in tacoma did he move back there because he just thought it was, uh, so nice and beautiful uh, you know, I think it was uh, primarily.
Speaker 1:just, you know he was a mechanic, airplane mechanic and Boeing was in Seattle and so that is primarily, I think why they moved back was the job opportunities back then and cost of living.
Speaker 3:So you grew up there and had a pretty good childhood. I assume you have a lot of siblings or anything.
Speaker 1:Yes, I've got a sister that's dear to me. We're about 18 months apart, you know just a beautiful area. I was very fortunate, very blessed, to have parents that took care of us and were hard workers and they did well for themselves.
Speaker 3:Are they all still in that area?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yes, they are Okay.
Speaker 3:So they are Okay. So what is it you do for a living?
Speaker 1:You know I've got a day job and a night job. My day job is I have a business here, basically a business consulting, and then my night job is a healing strong chapter president for this area.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a good combo there. I like that.
Speaker 1:It's been a blessing.
Speaker 3:Let's talk about your diagnosis then. It was kind of like the same time. Mine was a few months before me, but back in 2016. How did that come about? What were your symptoms or what brought it about to your attention?
Speaker 1:You know what I actually? I think I went into the doc and the doctor in March but I had a lump on my pelvic area, you know, just above my leg, and I thought, you know, like a typical guy, just said, ah, it'll go away. So, you know, three, four months go by, it still didn't go away. But I happened to go go in, uh, you know, during the spring marches, when I usually go in for a checkup, and so I went in and and I almost got out of there, uh, without even bringing it up, but I thought, oh man, I'll just I'll go ahead and bring it up and so I said hey, doc, you know you might want to take a look at this, and so so basically he looked at, he says oh, it's probably nothing.
Speaker 1:And he goes well, well, let's do a blood test real quick. And you know, the T cell test came back negative and he goes. But you know we really should do a biopsy just to be sure. So did the biopsy and that came back positive. And you know the rest is history from there.
Speaker 3:Did that kind of turn your world upside down at that moment.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, I was very fortunate and blessed. I've come to realize that God's had his hand on me for a long time. I just wasn't wise enough to realize it, and so what I mean by that is I had someone that I cared about quite a bit, and this person worked in an environment that, um, you know, just wasn't healthy. A lot of you know pink chemicals and different chemicals. I would walk in sometimes and I couldn't breathe, but she'd be running around like you know, no big deal and and breathing in and stuff. So I'd say, hey, you know, you really should wear a mask when you're in here, and she always just blew it off, like you know. I was silly, and so I thought to myself, you know what, I'm not going to get caught flat-footed If she gets sick. I want to, you know, have some idea of what to do. So you know I love reading geopolitical things and various topics, and so when I would read it before I went to bed at night, I would, you know, if I came across the cancer article, I would read it, and if it resonated with me, you know, some examples would be, as you know, I'd read about turmeric and how it helped with cancer I'd read about, come across articles. That's how I found Chris Warwick and through Chris Warwick I just, you know, read some of his stuff, watched some of his interviews and learned, just became aware of who he was Rick Simpson, CBD oil, you know herbs.
Speaker 1:What really educated me was learning about the what we call the cancer. You know cancer care industry, and so I learned a lot about some different components of that. So I just became very aware. But it's amazing what you can learn over a five-year period. I learned a lot and so, uh, and like I said, all I would do is read these articles. If it resonated, I put it in my cancer folder and saved it, and so I just never expected I'd be the one to get the cancer.
Speaker 1:And so, because I had done all that reading, I definitely knew what I would not do and had a good idea of what I would do. And so you know that was my blessing is having the heads up. You know that was my blessing is having the heads up, and I've talked to a lot of people over the years, and particularly when I was going, when I learned about my diagnosis, you know I'd ask some people that I knew that had cancer and said, hey, this is what I'm thinking about doing, what's your thoughts? And I had a few people say, you know what, Ben, that's what I would have done. That's what I wanted to do is, you know, go the natural route. But you know my conversations with the doctor. They scared me so bad that I just threw up my hands and said do what you got to do, just get it out of me.
Speaker 1:And you know just that sentence right there get it out of me, that's you know, that's someone who doesn't understand what they're dealing with, and so, with that said, that's someone who doesn't understand what they're dealing with, and so, with that said, that was my blessing, where I was well-educated before I got the diagnosis and that empowered me to make the choices that I did. And you know, in those sorts of times you find out, you know, who loves you, you know they'll express it. You know, and sometimes, in ways you know, I don't want to say I didn't appreciate it but it wasn't helpful to building my confidence. You know, and sometimes, in ways you know I don't want to say I didn't appreciate it but it wasn't helpful to building my confidence. You know, I had a couple of friends say something like you know, this isn't something to mess around with, ben, you got to listen to your doctors. Or when are you going to stop doing that voodoo witch doctor stuff and get serious about taking care of this voodoo witch doctor stuff and get serious about taking care of this? And so, like I said, it's because that I was blessed to have that information.
Speaker 1:I knew that I was on the right track and during the healing process, I continued to listen to Chris' work and his interviews, particularly with Dr Vickers and I was implementing some of the protocols that you know Chris talked about, and you know there were other ones as well. You know and I share this just to you know empower other people to take a look, but Robert Scott Bell was another great one that I learned a lot from, and so that's part of how I kept going.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so what did the doctors themselves wanted you to do? What protocol they want to put you on?
Speaker 1:You know, what's funny is what happened with me is a lot of the things that I had read. I mean, it's like you know, jim, literally I experienced it, and so I broached. You know, many of the people I met in the you know Western medicine, you know, were very nice people, and my oncologist I'll never forget it, you know. I said, you know, hey, you know, I don't remember her name right now, but I said hey, doc, I've been doing some reading and I'd really like to explore some alternative methods before we go down this road of chemo or radiation.
Speaker 1:And she was typing at her computer and she just whipped her chair around like an angry teacher. She came up to me and she goes Ben, you need to understand right now you have non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Ben, I'm not aware of any alternative, proven methods to deal with what you have. She goes you need to understand that it's not a question of whether you're going to do chemo or whether you're going to do radiation. The only question is is whether you're going to do a lot or a little. And that's when I realized, holy smokes, this is exactly some of the stuff I've read. And I thought to myself immediately okay, well, I'm just going to get the tests that I need to get, so I can take into a naturopath and we can talk about some alternatives.
Speaker 3:Are there a lot of naturopath doctors in your area?
Speaker 1:You know that was another thing that I was very fortunate. There was a place called. There's a local natural health food store in Tacoma called Marlene's Market and they were very influential. Before I got the diagnosis I would shop there, but I also go to some of their different you know health-oriented seminars or you know hour-long talks and.
Speaker 1:I had met some of the different people that I utilized in my healing process there. Actually, and you know, through that store I became aware of a lot of different naturopathic protocols or people that had practices that at the time I didn't really appreciate fully what they were doing because some of them were off the beaten track in my eyes at that time. And, as you know, you become aware and you realize that there's a lot of wisdom in some of these different modalities, as they say. So yes, in Tacoma, even out here, in this area, there's a lot of great practitioners that I would say are helping a lot of people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought I heard that there's a lot in that area and it sounds right, even though I've never been out there. But that's the impression I have of that area and it it's. It sounds right, even though I've never been out there, but that's the impression I have of that area. It's kind of like I'm in south carolina and just over the border in north carolina, in ashville, you can find naturopathic doctors and holistic and all that because, again, it's like a hippie area. But but they know about healing and, uh, of course, now you know they are it's been devastated by the hurricane and I don't know how many of those doctors are still in practice.
Speaker 3:I haven't been up there since the hurricane came through as of this recording. So, yeah, we're still cleaning up. In fact, you might hear in the background here. We've had so many trees go down in my neighborhood. I keep hearing these some trucks out here. They're cutting down things. I thought that's typical. As soon as I start recording something, they start making noise, but but hey, it's okay to clean these things up. It's devastated some houses and um, so I'm not going to complain about that and you probably won't even hear it. I'm probably the only one hearing it, but uh, you're doing good on my end okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 3:I fortunately had an oncologist who he likes the immunotherapies, which I think is going in the right direction, as opposed to the chemo and radiation, the standards and his thinking, which was so bizarre. I've never heard another oncologist say this, but he goes. You know that chemo never really did work, like what. I've never heard a doctor say that and he's just. You know he's an oncologist. I said, okay, I like this guy. He goes. There's so many things coming down the road that is so much better. I'm going to stick with him, but yeah, it's good to find doctors like that. So did you leave her or just, does she still do tests like blood tests for you, or how's that working out?
Speaker 1:Oh, let's see here. So I did leave her eventually and I went to a naturopathic clinic in the area. It was a great experience. I went there and it was an oncologist that I was speaking with, but he was more on that natural side. So you know, the thing I think a lot of people need to understand, especially when they get that fresh diagnosis, is that you know, in my opinion, my humble opinion that you know, cancer is not the problem. You know, it's the symptom of something else that's not working right with your immune system.
Speaker 1:And so he is the one that was responsible for helping me figure that out. He basically figured out that my gut, that basically I was getting sick from malnutrition because my gut wasn't healthy and I wasn't digesting food properly, which means you're not getting the nutrients. And if you have leaky gut and that sort of thing, now all of a sudden you got inflammation going on in your system. So that's what I determined. What was the problem. So the logic would be as you fix that, then you should be able to take care of the cancer. So, with that said, you know he ran some tests and you know, basically the tests came back showing that I had some gut issues. So what was interesting, we got a little aggressive with each other because he said well, ben, he goes. You know, now that we know what the problem is, we're going to deal with that cancer. And uh, you're going to do the chemo and you are going and I'm going to help you recover from the chemo. And I was not expecting that at all. And I said, hey, wait a minute, doc, you know, I appreciate everything that you've done, but I'm here to see you because I have zero interest in doing chemo. And you know, basically, he said that I was crazy for not doing the chemo. Needless to say, I stopped seeing him as well.
Speaker 1:But, like I said, you know, my blessing was is that it just didn't make any sense to me to to do chemo. And you know I can go into why it didn't make sense if you'd like to. But the point is, is that, uh, that was one of the things that I kept running into. Is this that these road blocks or these comments about that? I was on the right wrong path. But you know, like I said, you know, when you read for five years, you learn a lot and I there's just nothing that anyone could do to to change my mind, and I was never even.
Speaker 1:You know, the thing I was fortunate about was, you know, I mean, I wasn't 100 sure, you know, I didn't know I was gonna come through it, but I just, you know, there's different paths and this is the path that made the most sense to me. And so, you know, with that said, I have a lot of empathy for the folks that I meet at Healing Strong, because, you know, a lot of them that come have already gone down these roads and they realize that, okay, this isn't exactly working out the way I thought it was going to work out. So now they're looking for answers, you know, with that said, I'm able to talk to them and communicate with them in a way that, you know, I've been there and I felt what you felt, you know, as far as you know, being scared, confused, overwhelmed, you know, sad, all these emotions. I mean, the only time that I ever really was really scared was when that first oncologist she said, ben, we're going to, you know, got an appointment set up for you for, you know, three weeks from now, but I want you to come in next week and I want you to do a bone marrow draw, and I thought, I mean, that rattled me. I go what do you mean a bone marrow draw? That's just something I hadn't even thought about, wasn't on my radar. And I go, what do we got to do that for? And she goes well, ben, you've got non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. You could have cancer in your bone marrow. We got to figure out how far this is spread.
Speaker 1:So that bone marrow draw was a little bit of experience. It wasn't as painful as you always hear. It is, for me anyway. But with that said, it came back clear it wasn. With that said, it came back clear it wasn't in the bone marrow and so that was a blessing. But yeah, but yeah, my point bringing that up is that was the most scared that I ever got because I didn't know. You know, we said I never professed I knew everything. I just know that I learned a lot in the five-year period. But but uh, those experiences is you know really what I enjoy being able to communicate and hear people out as to what they're feeling and, you know, just try to keep them moving in the path, that that they want to, that they want to go all right.
Speaker 3:Well, I want to talk about your connection with healing strong in a minute here. But so many people they want to like, know what. How exactly did you handle this and like, for instance, how did you heal your gut health? I mean, did you just go on a raw food diet or how'd you fix that?
Speaker 1:You know, for me it just was kind of fundamental. So what I mean by that is, you know, once I got confirmation that my gut wasn't healthy, you know I knew a little bit about gut health but know nothing too. It's nothing too detailed, so, uh, basically I just read up on the topic, you know, just focused on a lot of things that you know chris work preaches is nutrient dense food right, so just focused on nutrient dense food, probiotics, some of the foods that I ate that I just didn't normally eat. Oh man, I could not stand sauerkraut, but I started eating sauerkraut. Now I like sauerkraut.
Speaker 3:I love sauerkraut. It's weird.
Speaker 1:What was the other thing? Oh, pineapples. You know they say oh well, you can't have sugar. You know you got to stay away from sugar. Well, I had a. You know I do some juicing, a little bit of juicing, but more I did a lot of not a lot actually, that's not a true statement. Once a day I'd have a smoothie and it was just, you know, nothing but green. But I think the game changer for me with that was, you know, I read that pineapple helps with your guts acidity and health. Yeah, so I made sure I and you know I think that went a long ways. But the point is, is I just really focused on nutrient-dense food supplementation?
Speaker 1:Detoxification was a big part of what I did. I was very familiar with the Gearson therapy via Chris Wark, but I met a great practitioner, dirk Yao, who lived in the area. I had a great practitioner, dirk Yao, who lived in the area. He was what I would consider my game changer as far as the detoxification, and I'm trying to think if I'm missing anything. Oh, exercise. And so I just tried to listen to my body and I ended up changing some of the exercises I did, because if I started feeling too tired after doing something. I knew that I shouldn't keep doing it. You don't want to stress out the body by, you know, over-exercising. So I started out with hot yoga, which was fantastic, and then I bounced back to just pushing around, a little bit of weight, a little bit of jogging, and then I pushed it back to playing nine holes of golf a few times a week. So those, to me, are the fundamentals to playing nine holes of golf a few times a week. That could be stressful.
Speaker 1:Those, to me, are the fundamentals. You know, you're absolutely right, we'll leave it at that. But it's a humbling sport, but I love it. It's challenging and that's a good thing.
Speaker 3:And there's that one good shot at every game that brings you back the next time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3:So how are you doing now physically with your, with the cancer?
Speaker 1:uh, you know I always say no lumps or bumps. Um, you know, I've done some uh blood tests to make sure things are. Things are good, but but overall, you know, just try to lead that that lifestyle of just, you know, doing the solid basics, and you know I preach it all the time. But what I just mentioned earlier, those are the basics and I think if you do those things you can definitely keep your health. But one of the things I think that is most important is helping your body detox, because you know we're being bombarded every day in various ways. I'm just a big proponent of having an attitude that you know, every day I'm, you know, in a battle to keep my health. You know to to keep my mind and just try to put good things in my body every day, right.
Speaker 3:You're basically getting the balance back in your life. That uh usually. And we don't realize that we're out of balance until something like this happens. So basically it's like, hey, where am I out of balance here? Whatever that may be, it's different for everybody, but of course you can always start with nutrition, because not everybody eats perfectly and you can always do exercise. But I mean, there's the mindset and there's detoxing and there's you can't do it all in one day or one week. You just got to start with you know, one step, get that corrected and then move on and, of course, with you collecting five years of knowledge. That's like a college degree, so you're able to add things on. You didn't do it all in one day, right?
Speaker 1:No, I did not one day, right, and no, I did not.
Speaker 1:And, um, well, I said no, it's uh, and so I think it's very unique, what, what happened with me? And and, uh, yeah, and that's part of what I'm trying to do with, uh, the healing strong group here in corduroy and attract people who are just uh, who are interested in just their health, you know, just interested in learning, because that's where the power comes from is by, you know, learning about your body, worrying about health and worrying about different protocols. You know that knowledge is what gives you power to step through any type of autoimmune that you know could come up. But with that knowledge, the likelihood of you dealing with an issue is going to be a lot less, because through that knowledge, you're going to know, you know what you should be eating, how much exercise should be doing, you know what is detoxing and why is it important, and, um, that, uh, I will go a long way in keeping you healthy, but if you do, you know, run into a stumbling block, you'll know how to get around it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you're unique in that you knew about Healing Strong before you got sick doing all that research right.
Speaker 1:You know, I got to think about that. No, you know, I know this. Uh, when healing strong started, but I think it was after I got the diagnosis.
Speaker 1:I just because you know, chris was doing his uh, chris beat cancer and I think he was, you know, just either a couple years either into it or, uh, he had, you know, got the clean bill of health. But right, uh, he was doing the YouTube videos and, like I said, I just that's how I found him. He had talked about the Gearson therapy and I just thought, wow, I want to learn a little bit more about that. And I saw this great video that you know.
Speaker 1:Like I said, before I got the diagnosis, I was aware of these protocols and I saw this video where this gentleman had a tumor behind his eyeball, so his eye was like bulging from the socket, and so they did a time-lapse video, basically every day. They took a picture of his face every day that he did his Gerson therapy, and I think it was like over a 90-day period. It might have been a six-month period, but the time lapse actually showed the eyeball going back into a socket. So that's well, you know, was an educational thing that I would never forget and that was a big component in helping my body detox and, you know, get back to health.
Speaker 3:Okay, so how long ago did you start the Healing Strong Group?
Speaker 1:I believe it was four years ago, yeah.
Speaker 3:So yeah, so it just is.
Speaker 1:It's gone by fast, that's for sure.
Speaker 3:Is it in person or is it Zoom?
Speaker 1:It's in person, thinking about. You know doing it via Zoom, or you know online as well. You know, for me it's just getting to more people and you know doing, you know doing it via zoom, or you know, online as well. You know, for me it's just getting to more people. And you know, showing, showing them, yeah, giving testimony, that's that's what it's about right.
Speaker 3:yeah, I had that feeling myself after you, you know, get healthier and you beat this cancer, um, and you have all this information. You just feel like you got to give it back. You can't just like move on like feel like you got to give it back. You can't just like move on like nothing happened. You got to give back because there's so many people I mean, more and more people are getting cancer. It's like you can't go through life without knowing somebody, or many people actually, who have cancer, and so you just feel like, hey, I got this information, I got to share it with people. So that's pretty much what motivated you right there in Idaho.
Speaker 1:Is it information? I got to share it with people. So that's pretty much what motivated you right there in idaho, is it? Is it a pretty big group or just stay at a certain amount? I'm just being nosy, uh, you know. Uh, on average it's been about, you know, actually, people showing up has been somewhere between 8 and 12 people.
Speaker 1:But what's been awesome is we've got some great folks that come. I've got a gal well, I don't know if that's the right word, but I have an attendee whose name is Nancy and she's a fantastic lady. Just admired her tenacity and regaining her health and she was influential in helping to create the largest group we've had. We had 30 people two months ago and so, yeah, so that's been another thing that I didn't really expect in creating the group, which is the blessings that I actually get from the folks that show up.
Speaker 1:We do a thing where I just ask people to do three things, you know, before we start the meeting A tell us your name. B what brought you here. And C what do you hope to gain? And what's awesome is to come back the next month and find out that you know a lot of these people connected with each other because either they had the same form of cancer or somehow, you know, they just uh, you know, were drawn to each other. So they either go out to coffee, go out to lunch, and now they're supporting each other, and it's just uh.
Speaker 3:It's just a beautiful thing to see that seems to be the uh, the draw in the group, because I have the same core people that come. There's like five or six people that have contacted me and said, hey, I'm just moving to the area and I'm interested in it and they've yet to show up, but they say they're coming, but they haven't yet. So I just keep them on the mailing list. So you know, it's not about having a huge crowd, it's just about reaching people that are you, you know, going through something and they're scared and they're looking for hope.
Speaker 3:so how can people get a hold of you? I know you like to help people and and reach out to them, so how can they get hold of you?
Speaker 1:uh, you know the best way is uh, just shoot an email to uh info at healing strong cdaorg, okay, and and I'm pretty quick to respond and provide info or let them know when the next meeting ends.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The website's healingstrongcdaorg.
Speaker 3:Okay, Well, Ben, it was great to meet you and I'm glad your journey is in the right direction. Now You're getting healthier and healthier and feeling good about things, getting the balance back in there and helping other people. Helping other people is also very healing, I find.
Speaker 1:Definitely a blessing to meet the people that come, and then, you know, I've been meeting a lot of the practitioners in the area, and so it's definitely been an interesting journey, and an enjoyable one at that.
Speaker 3:All right, well, thanks for sharing that story with us, ben.
Speaker 1:All right, thank you, appreciate your time.
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Speaker 2:You've been listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast. A part of the Healing Strong organization. We hope you found encouragement in this episode, as well as the confidence to take control of your healing journey, knowing that God will guide you on this path. Healing Strong is a nonprofit organization whose mission is to connect, support and educate individuals facing cancer and other diseases through strategies that help to rebuild the body, renew the soul and refresh the spirit.
Speaker 2:It costs nothing to be a part of a local or online group. You can do that by going to our website at healingstrongorg and finding a group near you or an online group, or start your own, your choice. While you're there, take a look around at all the free resources. Though the resources and groups are free, we encourage you to join our membership program at $25 or $75 a month. This helps us to be able to reach more people with hope and encouragement, and that also comes with some extra perks as well. So check it out. If you enjoyed this podcast, please give us a five-star rating, leave an encouraging comment and help us spread the word. We'll see you next week with another story on the I Am Healing Strong podcast.
