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109: Life After Grade 4 Brain Cancer with Humor and Hope | Jennifer Dickenson
Diagnosed in 2011 at the age of 44, Jennifer Dickenson, a successful lawyer, shares her journey and transformation as a result of brain cancer. Jennifer received an official diagnosis of Glioblastoma Multiforme (grade 4 Brain Cancer) and in this interview, she covers the pressures of managing a large law firm during the financial crisis of 2007-2008 and how it took a toll on her health. This led to a crucial wake-up call and a reevaluation of life's true priorities. Jennifer's story is not just one of survival but of embracing faith and family over professional accolades. Jennifer's story is a heartfelt testament to the power of personal growth through adversity.
Lifestyle changes, focusing on diet, breathing, and the calming effect of a balanced life are also highlighted. Jennifer shares insights from her own book and invites listeners to explore further learning opportunities. The HealingStrong organization is highlighted as a beacon of support for those on similar journeys, offering a community that rebuilds, renews, and refreshes. Join us in spreading hope and finding strength in connection with others, as we explore how adversity can lead to a richer, more meaningful life.
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So to look at a terrible diagnosis and instead of say this is the worst thing in the world for me, it opened my whole life. It let me see how I had been mismanaging my own life and it also helped me see the priorities of my life and I saw God in the most intimate, close connection, where I was having conversations, conversations with God, and I had never had that before. Yeah, but getting this and then seeing how my family is the priority me and my family, god, me, my family and then I talk about it in the book where the night where I was diagnosed and I'm in the hospital, I have this moment where I realize that those are my priorities and all my achievements as a lawyer literally meant nothing. Yeah, I mean nothing, and I was stunned by that, but it remains the same. What a wake-up call.
Speaker 3:You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast, a part of the Healing Strong organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world. Each week we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health. Now here's your host stage four cancer thriver, jim Mann.
Speaker 2:Jennifer Dickinson, thank you so much for joining me today on this podcast.
Speaker 1:It's such a privilege to be here.
Speaker 2:Thank you again for the book that you sent me an autographed copy of that. That doubles the value right there. I jumped on it right away. Got a few days ago, jumped on it and of course it gives me an excuse to go to the coffee shop. So that's always good and I liked it because, I mean, I've been through cancer myself, I'm a survivor, cancer-free now, and I know a lot of stuff that you put in here. But it's so good for me, a person like myself whose thoughts are just all over the map, to have it laid out like you have. My only complaint is there's no pictures.
Speaker 1:No pictures.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got to be like a grown up and read the words. How do?
Speaker 1:we do it and we'll add some pictures in there for you.
Speaker 2:Okay, I appreciate that Now we're going to talk about the book and we're going to talk about your diagnosis, but let's get a little background on you in the first place, because you were born in New York, right? How came? You didn't stay there.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a little cold. Yes, I grew up in New York. It's beautiful. We're about an hour north of the city, so it was very bucolic and beautiful. And I went to college University of Rochester, which is even further cold. So after that I decided for law school I need to go south. So I went to Georgia, I went to Emory for law school and then I sort of stayed because the weather is so nice. And that's where I became a lawyer, got my degree.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you're still in the Atlanta area, then right.
Speaker 1:That's correct.
Speaker 2:Yes, Okay, yeah, I was just there Monday, monday yeah.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you didn't see me.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't see you.
Speaker 2:Weird that is weird. Yeah, yeah, it was Of course, that was just last year. You graduated from college, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, no, no. I've been doing this for a while. Yeah, it was about 30 years, 30 years Wow.
Speaker 2:That's a lot. Yeah, I was 30 years in radio, so we kind of like have the same thing, but I started kind of late too, so I'm sure I'm probably four or five times your age, so you had your own place.
Speaker 1:Okay, so as a lawyer I sort of went up the ranks. I was very motivated hardworking and I was, I guess, pretty successful. I was based on those metrics, right.
Speaker 1:Through a business metrics and ultimately I was with a big firm, I became the managing partner of that huge firm and then, ultimately, there were changes made and so I left that firm with another lawyer and we created our own firm and we had a hundred lawyers and staff and we had offices all throughout Georgia. We had 12 of them and I was 40. And I thought that was pretty cool and it was pretty good for a while and I was like, wow, this is going to really work. I could see it. I had seen the vision and I could see it. But then 2007, 2008, the financial crisis.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And our firm does. We had a department that did litigation, but not my department. We did the transactional side, which is about 93 of the staff are on my side. So it's very stressful and I had to sort of restructure the whole firm because I had all those offices and all these people and I had to let people go. And I learned through this process I am a terrible firer, I am terrible at it and I learned later on I'm actually a very sensitive soul, which is why everything that was going on I took so personally and that also helped create the illness that I had, because I was in a stress situation for probably four years, constantly running, running. So I'm going along, trying to solve the problem and we're successful. We're successful. The firm was the largest female real estate firm in the Southeast, so it was kind of a big deal, but in that I was wrapped up in my name, in what I was doing and my achievements and all my public speaking events, you know, for litigation or for legal matters, you know, and I would do a lot of speaking.
Speaker 1:But then I started to start to have problems in 2011. In January, I was talking with a client like a famous client, and they asked me a question and I really couldn't. I couldn't remember what I said and I know people. I realize people forget stuff all the time and in fact I see it all the time. I'm like, wow, but it's different, right? I literally for the life of me I couldn't remember and they wouldn't help me. They weren't like, oh yeah, that mean Bob. It was just it didn't go very well. And that was the first I noticed. And I was doing a public speaking event and it was like PBS, but it was all lawyers speaking. It's not like normal people would have seen it. But I had to go to PBS and I did my whole schmeal about everything and I finished it and I was like I don't know what I just said.
Speaker 1:So that was in January of 2011. And um and I you know, it was just I didn't realize I had brain cancer at that point, but uh, you could just see every month that would get worse and worse. And then I finally, in March, I saw a doctor, a neurologist, and he's like, oh, he was really relaxed about it. And he's like all the lawyers are stressed out, don't worry about it, we'll do a test. Well, I'll set the test up for you and we'll do that. I'm like, okay, well, that's fine. Well, two months later, he's ready with the test. But I'm doing more public speaking. I'm driving to Florida for six hours, right?
Speaker 1:So, I did two events and the first one was a little bit questionable for the first hour, for the first minute, because I was having trouble reading my own notes. But then I put those stupid notes down. I did the whole thing and I was like, did it right? But I thought to myself I really hope nobody says something like says at the end, have a question, because I didn't know I was having cognitive problems. I didn't know how to define these words, but I knew I couldn't handle a question because I didn't know that I would be able to answer it. And of course somebody came in and they're like oh hello, I have a question and I, you know, somehow I got rid of it, got home and I was like I am not doing well, but I had one more to do. And so again, driving back to Florida six hours back and forth with this thing growing, not knowing that. And the second time I did it it was a big group of bankers and I had a lot of friends in that one and they're like it wasn't good.
Speaker 1:I knew it wasn't good. The other one. I kind of got away with that, but this was not good. Next day I got an MRI and finally demanded I had to demand the MRI from that doctor and I demanded it. I go to the place and that's where I was discovered that I had glioblastoma grade four.
Speaker 1:They actually at that point they didn't know, but they said it's a high level, but it ultimately was a grade four, which is they don't give you much chance to live. It's like 95% die within 12 to 18 months, Even if you get the full protocol like the chemo, the brain surgery, chemo radiation, they still they'll say, well, it'll come back. They kept saying that, which is why the name of my book, the Case for Hope. There is a case for hope, it's not a guarantee, but it is one.
Speaker 2:I have to bring my stress down, because you just gave me a flashback to speech class in college, but that's a different story. Yeah, thanks for that, but that's a different story. Yeah, thanks for that. Yeah, so when did they actually okay? You said they did diagnose it, and then what protocol did they want to put you on?
Speaker 1:So for me it was going to be, and I did this, I did brain surgery, then I did five weeks of radiation and then I did brain surgery, then I did five weeks of radiation and then I did chemo. They were going to make it for 12 months but I really, at six months of it I was like I don't want. I mean, I'm kind of small and I just felt like it was just knocking me down more than anything else.
Speaker 1:And I actually, at the six months, I said that to my oncologist and he said, no, we're going to go the 12. Then I started having it's almost like a God thing, right. Like in the ninth month I started to have breakout in like hives all over. I mean I had taken all of these it's chemicals, right but I had all these hives and so I told the doctor I don't want to take this anymore and he was going to put more drugs on me so I could handle the problem that I was having.
Speaker 1:So, fortunately, Duke we had a relationship with Duke which has a big brain center, and I had been working with them and like I'd fly there and they'd check me out, and they told me that actually the studies on the medicine that I was taking, which was called Temidor, that the actual studies on it to get it passed through the government was it was only six months. It was only six months. But they say to the doctors but we let the doctors you know if they want to, but it has never been tested beyond that, Isn't that not it?
Speaker 1:So, once I got that information, I'm like I'm done, I'm done, and that was great because it's you know, you know it knocks you down. Your immune system just knocks you down with all that.
Speaker 2:Yeah and of course, before you had cancer. You don't really think about that kind of stuff. Most people don't go around thinking about chemo.
Speaker 1:No way.
Speaker 2:Unless they have a close family member, of course, but just the fact that it kills everything in its sight, then hoping your body can fight its way back. It's just a little crazy. In fact, my oncologist, which really threw me back when he said this, he goes. You know, chemo never really did work. I'm like what, who are you?
Speaker 1:Did he really say that?
Speaker 2:He said that he goes. You know, it's pretty barbaric.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And I said, wow, I like you. And they didn't give me chemo, I did immunotherapy.
Speaker 3:Oh, you did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they didn't give me chemo. I did immunotherapy. Oh, you did, yeah, and so it cleared my. I had like eight tumors, I had melanoma, and it came back after 18 months and that's when they put me on immunotherapy and it cleared up the tumors and within the first two months, Wow. I know I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so at that time did you also start to use all the other tools that I learned for myself? Did you also start to make changes in your life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I like the title because I'm a very hopeful person anyway, I think it's just my simple mindedness, but I have a childlike outlook on life and so that gives you a lot of hope. But I changed my diet. I cut out sugar, you know, exercise and got rid of any stress I had. But again, stress doesn't really affect me too much because I forget about it, like what. So, yeah, pretty much everything. You're in there.
Speaker 1:Stress is associated with the top six killers in the United States and two of them cancer in the heart. So I mean, when we are living in a life of constant stress not the way that you have run your life, but certainly me when you do that you're not oxygenating your body as much because you're in fight and flight role all the time. You wake up in the morning, oh my gosh, you wake up in the middle of the night and the fact that they have made this correlation is so brilliant, thank God, because you have to relax, part of for your circumstance. I bet just some other people have taken the medicine that you took. Yeah, it wasn't successful like it was for you, and I do know that having a positive attitude is an element of healing.
Speaker 1:It is it just is right, versus somebody who's just like, oh how did this happen to me? Which is completely legitimate and that's okay to feel that way.
Speaker 1:But at the same time I always tell people I do a lot of public speaking, obviously about my book and trying to get the word out is the most important thing. But I always say I had a terrible diagnosis, grade four brain cancer, glioblastoma, giving me 12 months. I'm 40. I have a first grader and a third grader. I mean I was a bit as bad as it gets right. No chance. They basically said, no chance, get your papers in order.
Speaker 1:But what I discovered very quickly because I am a hopeful person and also I didn't buy it what they were saying, I just didn't buy it. I didn't believe I couldn't add something to this and shift this. But you can find joy and pleasure in so many simple things and it is free. You know, petting your dog or your cat or going outside and just watching the trees and just feeling life or laughter. I mean I love comedy, I like nice comedy, I don't like the raunchy stuff. But your physical body is responding to that. And I'm just going to say this one more I talk a lot, so I'm sorry, but I'm warning you. But I've learned through this process that we don't get sick just in our bodies. That is the second place. It starts in your mind.
Speaker 1:And it is on and on how I I talk to so many people with cancer, all different types, and people have groups of areas, like breast cancer people, For example. They often are giver, giver, givers, but they don't ever take it back, and so and I talked to them and they're like totally like that, and a lot of the breast cancer also have conflicts with their husband or significant other and almost like cheating, or I've heard psychological cheating which I don't really understand that Brain cancer people type A, personalities like me, and also a lot of the managers of taking care of other people like me, but also sensitive souls like me, and that's how it knocks you down right. Some people have no problem firing somebody, but for me it was devastating. So double whammy.
Speaker 2:Wow, so you're saying I'll never have brain cancer?
Speaker 1:I don't see it. I don't see it. No, I don't see that at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what helped me is, you know, I was on the morning show at the radio station and my job I was like there was three of us in the morning my job was to say the off the wall funny stuff. So we basically just had a blast every morning a little too early in the morning, but still in the morning, so I was always happy and laughing. It was in my favor. So, and that's when I got my diagnosis. I had to kind of live it out in front of 500,000 people. It was great. Actually, Once you got the diagnosis and you're cleared, it just changes your whole life, as you well know.
Speaker 1:Well, absolutely A brand new shift of everything, your priorities, just like totally, completely opposite what you thought.
Speaker 2:So what is it, your personality type that made you just positive, someone looking for hope, or what was the cause of that?
Speaker 1:Yes, I do think that's a big part of it. And again, I've done like big public speaking events and people say, but not everybody is a positive person, right, and I'm like but you don't have to be, I've already shown you what you need, you don't have to figure this out. Only a positive person would say, hmm, if there's one person out there who's beaten this, why can't I beat this? Right, it was that mindset that got me to the point where I was ultimately able to do all the things that I learned in my book, that I created, that I found in my own path. So I do think that having a positive attitude is a big piece. But here's the challenge I feel I'm very appreciative of my doctors, but they do not have the whole piece of the pie, and that is absolutely clear to me, as as anything Um there, if there's a pie, the traditional medicine, uh, is going to, is going to be a piece of it, but it's the mindness, the mindfulness, the body and the spirit.
Speaker 1:To me, that's the whole piece and that's where people might be a positive person. But let's say, if they're a little older, they've come from the way they grew up, which is you just believe what the doctors tell you, and so they might be a positive person. But the doctor keeps hammering them. You've got 12 months. You've got 12 months, get your papers and orders. Oh well, what if somebody it's not going to happen? My doctor kept, even after I got through chemo and radiation the whole, he kept saying, well, when it comes back, he had a plan for when it comes back.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I would say if it comes back. And then he would say again when it comes back. And I say it was like this bizarre fifth grader. No way, I didn't say so, but I was fighting for my hope and I wasn't going to let him take it away from me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I like where you kindly said in your book that Western doctors have blind spots. That's a very good way of saying it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because they sure do. Because, you know, at the same time I was diagnosed and I've said this on many episodes that I had a younger cousin who was diagnosed with it wasn't even stage one yet prostate cancer. They weren't even sure it was cancer but, you know, by the time they figured out it wasn't, they chemoed him for five years until he passed away. And here I am with stage four melanoma at his funeral, cancer-free, and they said it doesn't matter what you eat, eat more donuts to gain your weight back. I'm like I'm no doctor, but I know better than that. I don't have that blind spot.
Speaker 1:I have a woman. She's dealing with brain cancer right now and her doctor they've okay, she's had surgery and all this stuff At this point. They've had lots of MRIs and they've got a recent MRI and there's something there but they didn't do. It's called a contrast, which lets you see the brain in a more brighter manner. They didn't do that and she doesn't have the notes from that MRI. But now they're going to go into other surgery for her and I was just like what is it? And she goes I don't know, they don't know. I'm like we is it and she goes I don't know, they don't know. I'm like we got to get this information first. I mean they're already putting this whole plan together. They don't even know.
Speaker 1:You know you don't go into your brain just to investigate. You know. I mean there are other ways to get a little bit more information. So you've really got to be your own advocate. Oh boy, I really. That is one of the biggest thing. And for me, being a lawyer and running my own company and dealing with all kinds of multimillion dollar things going on all the time when I got sick, I was nothing right. I was nothing in the world of hospitals and stuff and people can treat you so badly and I don't know what that is. Sometimes Some people are just lovely and they say the perfect thing when you're in a situation so scared like that, but other people treat you like you're garbage and I had plenty of that and, unfortunately for them, I'd unleash it. I'd just be like everybody here is sick and you need to understand that I'm not at the deli. People are really scared.
Speaker 2:And I have 100 lawyers in my building.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right, no, but I calmed down. Actually, through my process I learned to sort of calm down, because that was part of the problem. I run pretty quickly, but it was too much and this process was in the oddest way. It was actually a gift in some ways it was almost like God was saying I want you to be here but, not this way and you are not making the changes that need to happen.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to help you Right. So to look at a terrible diagnosis and instead of say this is the worst thing in the world for me, I it opened my whole life. It let me see how I had been mismanaging my own life and it also helped me see the priorities of my life and I saw God in the most intimate, close connection, where I was having conversations with God and I had never had that before. But getting this and then seeing how my family is the priority me and my family, god, me, my family. And then I talk about it in the book where, the night where I was diagnosed and I'm in the hospital, I have this moment where I realize that those are my priorities and all my achievements as a lawyer literally meant nothing. Yeah, I mean nothing and I was stunned by that, but it remains the same. What a wake up call.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So basically you realized because you have an organized mind, which I don't that you had to get balance back into your life. Something was out of balance because we were made to heal. As we know, when we cut ourselves, it automatically heals as long as you don't get dirt in it. But I mean so the inside also heals. That's just the way God created us.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And we get our minds set on something and go after something, forgetting everything else. Maybe it's exercise, maybe it's the way we eat, especially here in America, getting your priorities mixed up, putting your job which is very easy to do as a lawyer I understand, especially if you have a hundred of them with you Not putting your family first, family time We'll do that later, we'll do this later. It's always we'll do this later. You know you love your daughters and your husband, of course, but yeah, it's. I love the fact that after you get cancer you don't want it, but after you get it, you know life. I always say it goes from black and white to color. It's just you know realize, wow, what have I been missing. You know how have I been living.
Speaker 1:Literally when I had the brain surgery.
Speaker 1:There were so many God things associated with it. It's just literally. It should be a book on and of itself. But when I had the surgery, you're very swollen everywhere the bandages and everything so I get to leave the hospital and I can't fly because you can't fly with all that pressure. So I had to for a couple of weeks and I had my kids and perfect situation. But the strange thing is is I always used to say when I got sick, the day I got sick, I said I'm a lover of life. How could this happen? I remember saying that I'm sobbing, I'm like I'm a lover of life. I'm a lover of life, right, but I wasn't living it. And I learned that after getting the surgery. So I have the surgery, I'm in Texas, recovering, and immediately I start to see everything in multicolor. Just like you're saying, I would eat every bite of food that was so good. It was so good.
Speaker 1:I would see a bird and I would just marvel in its color and its movement, or the trees, or the sky. I was just in awe, like seeing life again, like a child would see seeing life again like a child would see and that you can find so many gifts from these. Awful quote. Unquote. Awful things. This is how you can wake up. Wake up right, If you choose to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even the way you breathe.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So you stress that in there and that's something like who thinks about breathing? I mean, it's just something you do automatically, but it's really you don't do it. Well, automatically, right, it's important to breathe, of course, but do it?
Speaker 1:right, and cancer needs a little oxygen. But it doesn't like a lot of oxygen, right, you know high oxygenation. So when you're just sitting there watching TV and eating ho-hos, you're feeding the cancer and you might be feeling sorry for yourself, but you're actually helping it. But also, cancer also thrives on acidic foods versus alkaline foods, which I'm sure you know well. All about that. But all these things, I learned one thing after another. There was no book out there that had it nice and neat that I could find at that time.
Speaker 2:The acidic and the alkaline. I always get confused as to which food is which, because it doesn't make sense. So you have it out here, appendix E.
Speaker 1:You're so good, you did read it. I'm so happy.
Speaker 2:I understand coffee is acidic, but the rest like what Crackers.
Speaker 1:Right, right, and processed foods can be acidic, but the dance is, it's a dance between acidic foods and then alkaline. So let's just say, easy, alkaline is going to be your greens Green if you make those green drinks or broccoli, okay, those are. That's an example, but they are kind of all over the map. But the key is to have both of them, but more alkaline, and that is an environment that the cancer does not really has trouble living in and thriving in.
Speaker 2:So don't help them. Trouble living in and thriving in. So don't help them Just like the sympathetic and the parasympathetic nerves. People always talk about that and I always like which one is which. But so I wrote it down from your book and I mean you need the sympathetic obviously at times, but you want to hang out with the parasympathetic right.
Speaker 1:Right, right, Exactly exactly.
Speaker 2:Finally, I learned.
Speaker 1:You got it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what's the best way for people to get a hold of you and to find out about your book and everything?
Speaker 1:Okay, I've got a website called jenniferdickinsoncom. It's called jenniferdickinsoncom and it's J-E-N-N-I-F-E-R-D-I-C-K-E-N-S-O-Ncom and I'm on Instagram and Facebook, but under Jennifer Dickinson and. Jennifer L Dickinson, but also my book is on Amazon and it's really anywhere Right. And how did you hear about?
Speaker 2:Healing Strong. How did you cross them? Oh, my book is on Amazon and it's really anywhere Right. And how did you hear about?
Speaker 1:Healing Strong. How did you cross them, oh my gosh. So at this point, after about three years of my diagnosis and now I started to help other people who are in all kinds of cancer and so I started coaching other people, I was getting pretty strong about that and I also got very I was very clear about how we can heal. I think it was 2017, healing Strong had a big event. I was like I don't know what this is about, but I'm going to go. It sounds really good.
Speaker 2:At the InTouch Studios.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was in Atlanta, right.
Speaker 2:I was there.
Speaker 1:You were there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't see you again, so we gotta, we gotta fix that right.
Speaker 1:We have to fix that, um. But I went there and I was blown away. In fact, the book, my book, references healing strong as a resource, because I think it's the best period you know, because so many resources.
Speaker 1:It's just everybody complains with each other. But what you guys do and I've gone to many events and stuff and I've gone to other big events but I've also there's a local one but you've got it figured out and what a blessing that you do. So that was the first time I was around what you guys were doing and I was just like these people have got it figured out and so I stuck with that.
Speaker 2:Excellent, that was 2018, in fact.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I was diagnosed in 16. And then I heard about Healing Strong Myself. I thought hey, that's just down in Atlanta, I'll go there because I'm in Greenville, south Carolina. I too was blown away. You might have heard me gasping up in the nosebleed seats. I'm like what? What's going on?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was very good.
Speaker 1:Well, you know this is the truth. I know we're cutting, I know we got to go, but this is the truth. This is how, how we heal. These are all the pieces, so I'm thrilled and honored to be associated with you and Healing Strong and really anyone who is interested in looking at this differently, because there's so much hope in this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Well, jennifer, thanks so much. I'm glad I got to meet you. Thank you for the book and, yes, pictures next time for me.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank you. It was really an honor to be here.
Speaker 2:Before I go, I want to recognize a partner of Healing Strong. Rgcc is globally recognized as the leading laboratory in the field of personalized cancer testing. Rgcc partners with patients and practitioners throughout the cancer journey with powerful testing tools that provide actionable information allowing for the creation of personalized treatment protocols. To learn more, head to myrgcccom forward slash healing dash strong.
Speaker 3:You've been listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast. A part of the Healing Strong organization. We hope you found encouragement in this episode, as well as the confidence to take control of your healing journey, knowing that God will guide you on this path. Healing Strong is a nonprofit organization whose mission is to connect, support and educate individuals facing cancer and other diseases through strategies that help to rebuild the body, renew the soul and refresh the spirit.
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