I AM HealingStrong

104: Empowering Those with Cancer through Personalized Medicine and Community Support | Dr. Lauren Cohen, DC

HealingStrong Episode 104

Dr. Lauren Cohen, Director of Events & Executive Brand Ambassador for RGCC North America, shares her expertise and wisdom both from her background in chiropractic and emotional healing work to becoming a cancer patient advocacy.

Dr. Lauren's world changed when faced with the dual diagnoses of her mother and sister, propelling her into the cancer world with a deeply personal lens. Alongside her, learn about the power of functional medicine, where Dr. Lauren explains how understanding the underlying causes of diseases can offer a path to true individualized healing. Her connection with RGCC, a pioneering medical research lab, showcases the potential of unique personalized medicine in tailoring effective cancer care strategies.

Discover the comprehensive cancer testing with RGCC's groundbreaking methodologies such as Onco-D-Clare and Oncotrace. These advanced tests offer insights into genetic expressions and circulating tumor cells, presenting a clearer picture of cancer's behavior. Through these tools, Dr. Lauren and RGCC's efforts their testing abilities that goes beyond traditional allopathic approaches, opening doors to precision testing and personalized treatments that can truly transform patient care. Hear firsthand how the Onconomics panels can guide tailored treatment plans, offering hope and direction to those navigating cancer.

Finally, HealingStrong, a non-profit organization dedicated to empowering individuals battling cancer and other diseases is discussed and the partnership between RGCC and HealingStrong. Through holistic strategies and community support, HealingStrong nurtures the body, soul, and spirit.

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Speaker 1:

In my own practice in the 25 years, I can't tell you how many times people have come in and said, oh, you need to rep this particular product or supplement, and there is some DVD or MP3 or something that tells a story about how it brought somebody back from the brink of death, and then somebody else takes it and nothing happened. So were they lying? And the answer is no. It was an incredibly effective treatment for that person because it was the right match for their cancer cells, but that secondary patient it just simply wasn't. It doesn't mean that the supplement was bad, it just isn't the right match for that person. So knowing this information in advance is so incredibly powerful and empowering, knowing that you're making selections and investing in things that have efficacy for you.

Speaker 3:

You're listening to the I Am Healing Strong podcast, a part of the Healing Strong organization, the number one network of holistic cancer support groups in the world. Each week we bring you stories of hope, real stories that will encourage you as you navigate your way on your own journey to health. Now here's your host stage four cancer thriver, jim Mann.

Speaker 2:

Today I'm talking to a doctor doctor, which always makes me nervous because they're always so much smarter than I am, but I'm anxious to know, and excited to know, all the knowledge she has on this testing, which I've heard so much about. Dr Lauren, thanks for joining us today.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thank you so much for having me. I'm very excited to be here.

Speaker 2:

Now you're a doctor, chiropractic right.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so my background is chiropractic, functional endocrinology and emotional healing, and that was what I you know professionally I was doing in practice before I shifted into cancer patient advocacy and ultimately started to work for RGCC.

Speaker 2:

Part of that was functional medicine, right, what exactly is functional medicine?

Speaker 1:

Right. So allopathic very simple kind of sort of comparisons is allopathic is looking for the breakdown in the system and then manages the breakdown In functional. There's a recognition that the body has, you know, like natural natural balance and natural natural rhythms, and when the body is expressing dis-ease, that what we want to do is look for the underlying causes and then help the body to rebalance itself and in that rebalance the dis-ease goes away and health is restored. So we're not just managing the breakdown, we're actually working to restore health.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's not a Band-Aid, is what you're saying?

Speaker 1:

No, no, it's not a Band-Aid and it ultimately becomes. You know, typically the care, the things that patients learn when they're utilizing a functional paradigm with their health care is it incorporates into their way of life, it becomes part of their lifestyle, right, as opposed to it being a treatment. It becomes part of their well-being.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you did that for like 25 years before you shifted in another direction, right?

Speaker 1:

I did, I did yes.

Speaker 2:

Was it a clinic? Is that what it was?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I had my own clinic where I saw patients and again, it was a multidisciplinary practice where I combined the chiropractic work along with the functional endocrine work and emotional healing as well. So, you know, I focused on the whole person as opposed to just a, you know, a part of the person, and that I did in my own practice.

Speaker 2:

Yes, All right, then something I believe, something happened with your mom and your sister. They both had a diagnosis of cancer with your mom and your sister.

Speaker 1:

they both had a diagnosis of cancer. Yeah, so what's interesting is, even though I am a, you know, a doctor, you know, and a practitioner, and I had my own clinic, I was not. I was not treating cancer. I did not see cancer patients Again, from the functional aspect of it. I was. I was working with endocrine conditions and both my mom and my sister got diagnosed with stage four cancers at the same time. So I got thrown into the cancer world the same way as all of the patients did right. So I entered the cancer world through the patient door, not through the, you know, provider or practitioner door, and it was. And it was a very humbling experience because, with all of the knowledge that I had working with patients for 25 years doing all sorts of healing work, I knew nothing about cancer and I had to educate myself. And I always speak about how I went onto the internet and got my Google PhD the way everybody else does.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Except for you knew the big words. You could pronounce those.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and that actually is what kind of sort of led me into cancer patient advocacy. It was just something that organically started to happen was patients who met my sister along the way that you know, people knew about me, who met my sister along the way, you know, people knew about me. They referred them to me, not as patients but to help them understand like the doctors speak and to help them define what the different treatment options were in the different healing modalities that were being offered. And you know, because it's a lot of information and very dense information it was. It was challenging for me with my background, but I understood much of that. You know that higher level languaging and I was able to translate it into common language so that people could understand and I ultimately became the doctor in the family for those that didn't have one, so that I kind of shifted, like I said, organically into cancer patient advocacy and then that's kind of ultimately how I eventually ended up with RGCC.

Speaker 2:

So did you find out about RGCC just through research and you came across it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I always say this in a very funny way, I was a customer before I worked for the company. Yeah, I always say this in a very funny way, I was a customer before I worked for the company is that I found RGCC in the advocacy work and the research that I did for my own family, and I was very pleasantly surprised when I came across a medical, a world-class medical research lab that had a functional paradigm, medical research lab that had a functional paradigm. It, you know, it recognized that in, you know, each person is an individual and can't be treated as a one size fits all model, which is the current cancer care paradigm. Right, so for me it was. It was a natural connection.

Speaker 2:

And it's not in America, is it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the lab itself is based in Greece.

Speaker 2:

Greece okay.

Speaker 1:

Right, so there is a branch office RGCC North America. That's the branch that I work with and we serve as the liaison between the patients and the RGCC registered practitioners and the lab, so we facilitate the testing here in the North America region.

Speaker 2:

Why and this is probably a dumb question why is it just at one place where they do that?

Speaker 1:

That's a good question, one of which is Giannis Papasitorio. He is our founder. So, giannis Papasitorio, he is our founder and he is a medical oncologist, geneticist, molecular biologist. He is, you know, a combination of medical oncologist and scientist is a simple way to say it and he just understood that there are, you know again, the genetic differences and he took the existing science in terms of the testing technologies and he put it together in a very unique way. So he has been pioneering the concept of personalized and precision cancer care and cancer testing.

Speaker 1:

Right Now, when you say how come it's here and in the, you know only really pretty much in this lab is the standard of care, it just doesn't recognize it, you know. So when you're in the strictly allopathic model, you you get stuck in that standard of care and it doesn't venture out. So all of these innovations that are happening are happening outside of the standard of care and there are other labs that do some precision testing, but there are differences amongst the labs. But RGCC is unique in that space because we literally partner with patients all the way through the cancer journey, from the earliest pre-screen testing on the market, all the way through the cancer journey from the earliest pre-screen testing on the market all the way through remission and everything in between, and we're, as far as I know, we are really one of the only labs that does that.

Speaker 2:

All right, and you are our American connection.

Speaker 1:

I am.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so in my Healing Strong group that I have in Greenville, south Carolina, we had one of the members he had that done and he's a teacher by trade and so he explained everything. He put the charts up there, all the results. He had things that he was excited about, things he was very surprised about, and it made a lot of sense when he was explaining it. Of course, as soon as I walk away I'm like what did he say about that? But can you kind of like for us simple minded people who can barely say aspirin, can you explain how it works?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, absolutely. So, like I said, we have an entire suite of testing. So I'm not sure which particular test he was showing you, but let me kind of start at the beginning, which is pre-screening. We have a test called OncoDeclarer, which is pre-screening. We have a test called OncoDeclare and that is for patients that have not been diagnosed, that may have a family history or they're very much into wellness and prevention and want to do early detection. And OncoDeclare what it's doing is it's not waiting for cancer to develop to determine that cancer is present, which currently the other early detection testing on the market. That is what it's looking for. It's trying to pick it up early. It's trying to pick it up on a microscopic level before it might show up on imaging.

Speaker 1:

But it is what we call CTC based or circulating tumor based the and circulating tumors, in simple terms, is your tumors, your cancer sheds. So there are cancer cells that are circulating around your bloodstream. So whether they're picking up whole cells or they're picking up fragments, it is dependent on cancer already being present and in circulation. So our OncoDeclare pre-screening test, we went to the step before, like where do we start seeing shifts in the physiology and when cancer is going to start to develop, you're first going to see shifting in the genetic expression of specific immune cells. So you can have the shift in those immune cells without cancer having started yet. So we can pick it up very, very early, even before it actually starts to develop right. So for those that are interested in pre-screen, that's the information that we can provide you, that whether cancer is brewing right, is it starting, even if cancer cells are not yet in circulation. Then when we move on to our baseline testing, we have our Oncotrace, and Oncotrace is now for patients who are diagnosed where there is a very strong suspicion that cancer is present, and we are also now looking for CTCs or circulating tumor cells.

Speaker 1:

Now there are other CTC tests on the market, but what is unique about RGCC is that we don't give just a CTC count right. So the CTC count is basically giving you a volume. It's called enumeration, but it gives you a number or a volume of the amount of cancer cells circulating in the system. So if there's more cancer the number will be higher, if there's less cancer it'll be lower. So it gives you a bit of a yardstick so that you can not only find where you're starting but you can use this testing for monitoring as well, to determine how your treatment protocols are working.

Speaker 1:

But what is unique about our testing is that we have more comprehensive information and we also provide information on what we call stemness markers. And the stemness markers give us an understanding of the activity level of those cancer cells. Think of this very simply, right, just aspirin is. The stemness markers are like light switches, right, they're either in the on position active or the off position inactive. So if you have CTCs in your system and they are active when we are monitoring, we want to continue to see the CTC count go down, but we also want to see those stemness markers go into the off position. So if you go through all of your cancer care and it's no longer visible on imaging right in the medical model, you might be given the all clear saying that you're in remission. But it doesn't have the sensitivity to monitor on a microscopic level, but this testing does. So let's say that your CTC count goes way down If those, if those stemness markers are still in the on position, you're not done with care. So again, the comparison between other CTC tests and ours is that they're giving you a CTC count but not the activity of those cells and we're giving the comprehensive information. So not only do you know the count, you know if those cells are still active and if those cells are active that cancer can grow and metastasize. And we want to make sure you continue with your care until those also go into the off position.

Speaker 1:

What's most likely what you were seeing during your meeting was an Onconomics Plus or one of our Onconomics panels, which is our most comprehensive personalized testing, and in that series of panels and I'll explain the series in a moment you get a simple CTC count but you also get a full, complete, comprehensive genetic expressions profile. So it gives you not only the genetic expressions but the physiological expressions that are supporting and driving your cancer. So your practitioner can take that information and provide treatment options that either upregulate or downregulate those mechanisms to support your healing. And that's very much like a fingerprint, it's very unique to you as an individual right. And then on our panels, depending on which panel you do, we test 50 plus chemotherapeutic agents on your cancer cells not the cancer diagnosis, but on your specific cancer cells that we've extracted from your blood sample. So we do 50 chemotherapeutic agents, 50 plus natural substances or a combination of the two.

Speaker 1:

So we ultimately serve three markets those that are that are doing strict you know a strictly medical path. Those that are doing strictly a natural path, whether they want to stay natural or they've exhausted all of their chemotherapeutic options. Or those that are doing an integrative path, where they're combining both the medical and the natural. So with all of that information, your practitioner can build very specific protocols that are a match for you, as opposed to the one size fits all where you have the diagnosis. You have 100 of us, you know all of us have the same diagnosis, we all get the same treatment and we don't know who that's going to work for. Here you have that information up front so that you can make informed decisions about what care options you choose.

Speaker 2:

I know that some of the results was because he was taking the apricot seeds and it said that it had no effect on his cancer, which surprised him, but I think he just stopped eating them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you know so, so I want to answer that or respond to that in two different ways. One of the things that's really important here is that, especially in the natural world, there's an investment right, Because the natural options are not covered by insurance and therefore there's monetary investment. That's there, and what we want to make sure is that, if you are going to take these natural supplements, we want you to make sure that you're taking things that have some level of efficacy supplements we want you to make sure that you're taking things that have some level of efficacy, so that you're not wasting time and you know and money on things that really don't work for you.

Speaker 1:

And in my own practice, you know, in the 25 years, I can't tell you how many times people have come in and said, oh, you need to rep this particular product or supplement. And you know and there is some, you know DVD or MP3 or you know something that you know tells a story about how it brought somebody back from the brink of death and then somebody else takes it and nothing happened. So were they lying? And the answer is no. It was an incredibly effective treatment for that person because it was the right match for their cancer cells, but that secondary patient, it just simply wasn't. It doesn't mean that the supplement was bad, it just isn't the right match for that person. So knowing this information in advance is so incredibly powerful and empowering, knowing that you're making selections and investing in things that have efficacy for you. Now, a secondary thing that I want to share is that when I teach healing, I teach it in three buckets. So there's the direct, the indirect and then environmental. So direct are things that are going to directly affect the cancer cells themselves right. Then indirect are things that are going to interfere with different types of mechanisms or messaging pathways within the body so they change the physiological expression and therefore slow down the growth of cancer or inhibit the growth of cancer or speed up the you know the death of the cells. Whatever it may do, but it's creating a change in the indirect way. So it's not going directly after the cancer but it is having an effect on the cancer's ability to grow and thrive. And then there's environmental right, where we talk about doing detox, making sure you're boosting the immune system, that you're highly oxygenated, that you're alkalized, right, because an acidic and toxic environment is a pro-cancer environment. So there are those three buckets.

Speaker 1:

So there are occasions where there may be something that, on the direct impact, the information that you're getting on the panel says that it doesn't have efficacy at dealing with the direct bucket. You may still utilize some of these supplements in the indirect or environmental bucket. Does that make sense? So, as a hypothetical example, vitamin C. If vitamin C shows that it's not, it doesn't have efficacy on the, you know, on the direct bucket, it still helps boost the immune system. So your practitioner may still choose to utilize it. So just having an understanding of you know how this information can be applied. You just want to make sure that you're not accidentally throwing the baby out with the bathwater and you want to really have conversations with your practitioners to make sure that you're not taking something out that could be supporting either the indirect or environmental bucket as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that makes sense. I can't explain it to somebody else, but that makes sense to me. I've got to take you with me to explain to somebody else, okay, so, speaking of me. So, speaking of me, like in my situation, you know, I had stage four melanoma and then, after they operated, they told me I'd have like a month or two to live because it was so large, but then it hadn't spread, which they did not understand, and I thought, well, great, I've been healed, because I did have 500,000 listeners praying for me, you know, on the radio, so that kind of helped.

Speaker 2:

But it came back 18 months later in the form of tumors throughout my body and so we did the immunotherapy and within two months they all shrunk and and they say, well, yeah, there's, they can see some scar tissue in there where the tumors were, but pretty much they did it for two years. They said, well, there's no sign of cancer. They checked me out forever and in fact, coming up in a couple of months, they're going to do one more MRI and then they're going to close the books on me, they said, which kind of made me nervous. I said, what do you mean? Close the books somewhere? You're going to put me down or what, somebody like myself who the doctors declare you're? You know well, they don't say cancer free, but same thing, which test would I need to take? Because I thought, well, I don't need to do anything other than you know to eat. Right, get the exercise. And you know all the stuff that I did change.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I am so glad that you're bringing this topic up, because this is a question I get all the time. You know it's like I was told I was. You know I was free and clear. The cancer is gone.

Speaker 1:

You know, like you said, like they're gonna close the book and that type of thing and you know, and they say, like the cancer was gone, it came back. What happened, how did that happen and it happened about we spoke a little while ago about this is that we're monitoring on a microscopic level. The medical monitoring is just simply not sensitive enough. It doesn't mean that it's bad, it just doesn't have a good sensitivity. So you get to a certain point and the cancer is below the level of their ability to detect it. So it doesn't mean that cancer cells are not there, it just means they can't see them. And if they can't see it they can't treat it. So what occurred here was that those cancer cells remember we talked about the CTC count going down. But looking at those stemness markers, most likely what was occurring is that you still had CTCs in circulation on a microscopic level and they were active. So even though the doctors had given you the all clear and they stopped treatment, the cancer was still in circulation and had the ability to grow and metastasize and metastasize. So for anyone that has been given the all clear that says you know, you're now in remission, we're done with care, I highly, highly encourage doing the Oncotrace test Because that will let you know if there are CTCs in circulation, if they are active. And if there are CTCs in circulation, even at a microscopic level, it allows us to do our more comprehensive testing and we then you have an entire menu of treatment options that you can utilize in a proactive way, that you can continue to do that. In the medical model, you go off radar I call it flying under the radar, like you go under the radar and then they have to wait until the cancer gets big enough that they can detect it again. And by the time they do that it's been there for a very long time.

Speaker 1:

Now there is a book and I share. I share the story by a woman named Jenny Herbichek and the book is called Cancer Free, are you sure? And the reason that I share about this particular story is that she by chance wandered into an RGCC practitioner's office and she announced to him I'm, you know, I was told I am cancer free. And he responded are you sure? And they ran the Oncotrace test and she had a significant number of CTCs in circulation and it saved her life that she found that information when she did. And the book kind of catalogs her journey, you know, her healing journey, but the importance of this personalized and microscopic testing is that cancer it can be active and in existence without you being able to see it and being able like this, like I call the Oncotrace, the patient's yardstick, and it is for me, as a patient advocate and a family member of cancer patients.

Speaker 1:

It is an incredibly empowering test because every cancer patient, every single day, we sit and we worry Is the cancer coming back or when is the cancer coming back? And we have no way to determine that. Well, now you do, you have that and it'll tell you when you're in full remission and it will also then give you the opportunity to continue to monitor yourself, right like through the through the practitioner, the RGCC registered practitioner. But you have a way to continue to monitor and you have that information that you need. And at the first sign that these CTCs are either coming back or reactivating, you can do proactive intervention and not wait for it to get big enough to start showing up on imaging when it becomes more challenging to treat.

Speaker 2:

So do I need aspirin or not?

Speaker 1:

At least one aspirin a day, I'm sure Okay.

Speaker 2:

All right. So like say, I took that and I found out I am actually in remission. Does that close the door or do I, you know, a year down the road?

Speaker 1:

do it again, right? So each patient will have to make this determination with you know, your practitioner, as to what is the appropriate timing. So if you do the Oncotrace and it is determined that you are in full remission, right, either low or no CTCs or low CTCs in the off position You're going to want to monitor, probably initially every three months and then, if you get an all clear, you might go to six months, then you might go to a year, and that timeline is really determined by you and your practitioner. But from a patient advocacy standpoint, it's what is going to give you peace of heart and peace of mind.

Speaker 1:

How often do you need that information, right? We don't recommend you know, less than every three months, but what is the timing? That that gives you time, the comfort that you are aware, and staying on top of this information, right, right, so it could be six months, it could be a year, but initially, like if you go, if you're, if you were going into remission for the first time, we're probably going to request, you know, request that you do it every three months because you're, we want to make sure that you truly are in remission, right, and that you're staying there. So it's not closing the book in that way. Um, you know, like, like you know, okay, I'm done, I stopped care. And and the other piece of this is, we now know that your body has the propensity to create cancer, given the right circumstances yeah right.

Speaker 1:

So it's not about stopping care and then just going back to life. You know the way it was before. There's going to be certain lifestyle and dietary changes that now become part of your life going forward to keep you healthy. To support a healthy environment. To support an anti-cancer environment as opposed to a pro-cancer environment.

Speaker 2:

I already stopped eating Twinkies, so I should be good. I don't juice them anymore. So, okay, where do you go to have one of these tests? How do you find out where to do that?

Speaker 1:

Right. So RGCC testing needs to be accessed through registered RGCC providers. So, for anyone that is interested in exploring the testing and having the testing done, you would reach out to our branch office and we will provide you with a referral list of RGCC registered practitioners in your in your region, so that you can then connect with those different providers and find someone who is going to be the right match for you. And there you know. The way to do. That is, you can go to our website, which is myrgcccom, and there is a contact form there, or you can actually go to the specific website for Healing Strong. There's a contact form there with a free downloadable e-book for you as well, and that's myrgcccom. Forward slash healing dash strong.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

So myrgcccom forward slash healing dash strong and it will take you directly to a contact form that you can download that ebook and those contact forms will actually come directly to me and my team. Wow, if you use the contact forms on the website, they will go through. They'll go through the main channels, but if you mention that you are connected through Healing Strong, then they will then forward those contact forms to me so that I can respond directly with each of you.

Speaker 2:

Beautiful. How did you cross paths with Healing Strong?

Speaker 1:

We were at the Annie Appleseed Conference.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And we ran into Healing Strong and it was kind of a funny thing. I ran into Don Watson, who happens to be one of your group leaders out in Rancho Cucamonga.

Speaker 2:

California. I think I said that right.

Speaker 1:

And it was funny because when we met we both were like I was looking for you because I was interested in connecting with Healing Strong. I knew about Healing Strong from my patient advocacy work and of course it's a patient advocacy organization and they in turn were interested in getting more information and education about RGCC. So we connected there and now we have a wonderful you know relationship and partnership that you know gives us the ability to support each other.

Speaker 2:

Excellent. Did you meet Susie Griswold I?

Speaker 1:

did. She wasn't there at the conference, but I have met Susie and she is wonderful and I I you know. I just think that she is a blessing to all of us, that this organization exists from something that she started. She is absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, don't fall for that smile. She's really mean. She yells at me all the time. No, I'm obviously kidding, because when I met her I thought man, she's super sweet, something is up, she's hiding something. But no, she is she and her husband Jeff both. Man, she's super sweet, something is up, she's hiding something. But no, she is she and her husband Jeff both same way. It's so weird. Yeah, wonderful wonderful woman.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, Dr Lauren, I really appreciate you coming by because this is something that I was really interested in and I'm thinking about doing it because, yeah, my cancer is supposedly gone really interested in and I'm thinking about doing it because, yeah, my cancer is supposedly gone. But you know, like you're saying, every time you feel a little ache or pain, you're like, oh, did it come back? You know, does it come back with a vengeance? So you know it is nerve wracking. I don't think about it till I feel a pain or a headache or something like that. So, if nothing else, it's peace of mind.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it really is, and I'm very familiar with that experience from my family, from the patient advocacy work that I do, is that you sneeze and then the first go-to is oh no, do I have sinus cancer? You know a little itch on your skin? Oh no, do I have, you know. And it drives, you know it's going to drive us crazy. And oh no, do I have, you know, it drives, you know it's going to drive us, you know, crazy. And having the Oncotrace test done gives you that peace of mind. You have something that can monitor that for you. And you know. Again, as a patient advocate, you know, my goal is to help each patient get the knowledge. Goal is to help each patient get the knowledge and so that they can feel empowered and that they can participate more actively in their own journey and their own, you know, their own care and care choices.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and then the best way for people to get ahold of you personally, you know, through the business.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the best way to get ahold of me is through the contact forms. Like I said, the you know the myRGcccom forward slash healing dash strong. Those will come directly to me or the website contact forms. They will be forwarded to me.

Speaker 2:

Well, Dr Lauren Cohen, thank you so much for sharing this knowledge and we're so glad there are people like you out there with the brains and experience know how to deal with people that are facing all these fears and being overwhelmed and thinking, well, it's over, because I can't figure this thing out. So I'm really glad you're there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Thank you again for inviting me and allowing me to share my knowledge and my wisdom, and I hope that it helps some of your audience to be able to again make some better choices for themselves.

Speaker 3:

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 3:

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